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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 141 points 4 months ago (5 children)

This is what conspiracy theories are supposed be. Absurd insanity. Not "vaccines are bad for you" or "a secret agent with Q clearance wants patriots to overthrow democracy".

[–] Pheonixdown@lemm.ee 65 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I prefer the "Darth Jar Jar" and "The Bloop" levels of conspiracy theories.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Darth jar jar was absolutely meant to be canon and you can't change my mind.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Bruh there's actual supporting evidence for Darth Jar Jar. He doesn't deserve to be lumped in with the crazy shit!

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I miss Batboy and Elvis being spotted in their convertible UFO.

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[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (12 children)

The best conspiracy ever conceived was the one that convinced people that conspiracies are absurdist caricatures of the very real threat of collusion.

All these crazy conspiracies just weaken the perception of the mundane real ones.

If I was gonna conspire, the first step would be to trivialize the idea in the first place.

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[–] parpol@programming.dev 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"vaccines are bad for you" is extremely absurd and insane, tbf.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's vicious and anti-scientific, but it's not in the same level of obviously untrue statement as good conspiracy theories. Things that were claimed to be safe turning out to not be safe is something that actually happens. They're just lying that it's true of vaccines.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

It gets absurd enough when you go back to the original claim

"My MMR vaccine is completely safe, but the other MMR vaccine gives your child an upset tummy, which causes autism"

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

This is why the Denver Airport will always be the best conspiracy.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 95 points 4 months ago

Not that I wanted the debate to go the way it did

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago

This community is called news. It should include news. Not some trash blog.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yep, absolutely. It couldn't possibly be that he's an octogenarian with a known speech impediment, had to be directed energy weapons.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

known speech impediment

He had a childhood speech impediment. Overcoming those requires a concentrated effort, which we become less able to handle as we age.

Here's Biden in 2008

https://youtu.be/eOombKZSsj4?si=hYe3kh-wkM2iemtY&t=1424

Here he is in 1987

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRxOldhJ7Sw

In a way what's happening now is a speech impediment, but it's re-emerging as he loses ability in the same parts of the brain that handle critical thinking due to the normal effects of aging.

I'm just tired of so many people writing this stuff off. Like, it took 2 minutes to find those videos and show he hasn't always been like this. He just couldn't win until the only other option was trump. Even tho he was a much better candidate back then.

Quick edit:

Ironically something like the Havana weapon would actually cause this shit, it's incredibly unlikely someone used it on Biden for the debate...

But it's fucking 2024 y'all, who knows what's real anymore I guess.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Also, allegedly had a cold and probably got flustered after the first time he tripped on his words. And inexplicably kept trying to recite various metrics from memory.

[–] corroded@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People really underestimate how bad a cold can be. When I'm sick, it's so hard to function mentally that I can barely do my job.

I believe he was sick, and I believe this was just a case of unfortunate timing. What matters in politics is perception, though, and the perception isn't good.

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[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 51 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If we're going to go all conspiratorial, here's my theory:

Both campaigns are dealing with old men with diminished faculties.

There's some drug cocktail(s) that both campaigns have been using to pep the doddering old farts up for public appearances.

If you'll remember, very shortly before the debate, the accusation that "Biden's on drugs" made the rounds, and Trump made some noises about demanding a drug test.

For some reason - possibly fear, possibly determination in the face of a challenge, possibly a subtle communication that the Trump campaign had some hard evidence they would, if pushed, release publicly - that led to the Biden team withholding his customary drug cocktail.

Trump, meanwhile, was dosed to the eyeballs.

And that was the contrast we saw - Trump was on drugs, while Biden, for whatever reason, for that night alone, was not.

Remember - for the Republicans broadly and especially for Trump, every accusation is a confession.

[–] OopsAllTwix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's what probably happened.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean yeah Trump's WH had a pharmacy handing out free drugs like fuckin Pablo Escobar.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

every accusation is a confession.

This is all I could think of when Trump said Democrats would use every avenue both legal and illegal to overturn election results.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 51 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Idiots can be on the left too.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (46 children)

Of course. GMOs and nuclear power

[–] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 26 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Some of us aren't against GMOs for being genetically modified, we're against patents on food.

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some of us also are against massive overuse of glyphosate.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 10 points 4 months ago (6 children)

If I could fucking ban pesticides and antibiotics for agricultural use I absolutely would.

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[–] Luminocta@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"I don't understand nuclear power, therefore it is bad"

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is your occasional reminder that the conspiracy nutballs can be on the left sometimes too.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They are not left or right. They are just people that strictly believe everything that has been disproven or is too stupid to bother disproving, as long as ANY thread of correlation can be made up between it and observable reality.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

To be fair that correlates with being right wing for some reason

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

The disconnect from reality combined with being prone to belief without proof.

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[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

"Batshit conspiracy theories...not just for the far right anymore!"

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

Wow, and here I thought he was an old guy with a stutter getting flustered while a fascist fuckwad spewed inane garbage.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (7 children)

"It was his stutter."

"He had a cold."

"He overprepared and got flustered."

"A malicious actor used an Inator on him."

I wonder what the next excuse is gonna be.

[–] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

"He's old."

He actually said on camera that the reason he is running this time is because Trump is running, meaning that if Trump wasn't running, Biden wouldn't be running, meaning he doesn't even really want the job.

The DNC put up a guy that doesn't even want to be president again, and now 40% of democrat voters want a new nominee because apparently they weren't paying attention for the last 4 years and only realized now, during the debate, that Joe Biden is dealing with cognitive decline.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

No we realized years ago. It's the entire reason his campaign started the idea that he'd be a single term president. People brought it up after the midterms when he confirmed he'd run again. It's been in the news and an open question ever since then. According to insiders, the debate was held early specifically to show he wasn't too old.

Biden and the Party have been aggressively going after critics, accusing them of being Trump supporters and disloyal to the very concept of democracy. Which would have worked if he didn't shit the bed so badly.

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[–] Steve@communick.news 24 points 4 months ago

Have you ever been in a TV studio with all the lights pointed at you?
That's exactly what they are. Directed-Energy Weapons.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And yet this is still many orders of magnitude more sane than thinking Donald Trump is fit to be president.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 18 points 4 months ago (12 children)

Wouldn't Directed Energy Weapons make him burn and itch so bad he'd jump around?

We have those, we've used them in real combat, but they don't work like that.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (13 children)
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[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

So, Gizmodo's trying to toady up to The Onion, now?

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

That's

Not the weirdest thing I've heard. Fuck this timeline

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't buy it in this particular case, but "directed energy" can do some funky things: https://youtu.be/J-SH18dtBlY?si=40dOJbu4O9ZWWCsZ

(No, it's not a conspiracy theory video or any of that crap. Benn Jordan is a musician that likes all kinds of funky sound things.)

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

While Havana Syndrome is real, to my knowledge it's not that refined. It should have impacted everyone in the room, Trump and the moderators included.

The known reports of the syndrome occupied entire floors of buildings. The idea that someone could use it and just target one guy is a little out there.

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[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 7 points 4 months ago

I've said it many times, I will say it again: IT WAS THOSE DAMN REPTILLIANZ

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