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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Well, I'd been putting it off so I figured this was the push I needed to donate again

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Wikipedia is a good cause, but I feel like archive.org is in dire need of fundings.

Then English wikipedia is only about 100GB (excluding videos), archive.org is in the TERABYTES with some report of it being in PETABYTES. They need funding to keep up the maintenance of their storage and backups, and for the bandwith for people to access it. They've been attacked by hackers a few months ago so they'll need better security and that might cost money. They are under constant lawsuits over alleged copyright issues, lawsuits cost a lot of money. They're gonna need more funding than wikipedia to survive. I think Wikipedia already has enough funding to survive for quite a while.

Edit: What I means is, for every $5 wikipedia needs, archive.org might need like $50

So if you want to help both, the ratio of donations should be at least 10 to 1 (ratio between archive.org and Wikipedia)

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 16 hours ago

Just sent them $50 as well. Thanks for reminding me, Musk!

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 146 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A freely accessible collection of human knowledge? Of course authoritarians hate it. An informed populace is their enemy.

[–] kchr@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 19 hours ago

All under the guise of "free speech". Which, as we all know, means speech that align with Elon's currently held opinions.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 51 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Do you want me to donate to Wikipedia? Because NOW I’m going to donate to Wikipedia

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 24 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This news caused me to set up a recurring monthly donation, where I haven't actually donated to Wikipedia historically.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Same. $5 a month is a small price to pay to ensure that Wikipedia remains free of this turd's influence.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago

Actually thank you. Yep monthly I’ve have now set up

Thanks Elon.

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago

I will join you

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 84 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Just made my donation to Wikipedia, never have before, this news is as good a prompt as I could have ever received Fuck Elon Musk

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

I donated last night. The Christmas spirit moved me

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 46 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You inspired me. Let's keep it rolling.

[–] ahhhuevo@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

Just donated

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 44 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Could someone please take aim at Elon Musk?

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 32 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Will no one rid me of this turbulent apartheidist?

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Nice deep cut reference there. Well done

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago

One can dream.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 36 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Reminds me to donate to Wikipedia ..... and download another updated copy of the entire Wikipedia database.

[–] Plagiatus@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Got any links on how to do that?

[–] kchr@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

Kiwix seems to be the most popular app to browse offline web pages like this.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I've only ever used Kiwix ... it's the easiest and most easily installable on different devices.

I've downloaded the entire database about six times now over the past few years. I keep a duplicated copy everywhere ... laptop, tablet, storage drive, portable drive, smartphone ... in multiple places at home / cottage / relatives place

My latest download will only be to have an updated copy as my last one is about a year old.

I don't like doomsday prepping and I don't really prepare for anything. I've been self sufficient all my life and if the world ends, I'll be able to make do on my own, I always have. But when it comes to knowledge and information, keeping a copy of Wikipedia is no-brainer for me.

[–] kchr@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm not the prepper person either, but I like to be self-sufficient and not be overly reliant on modern technology. My primary use case has been during travels.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

I'd like to see how much of an uptick in these they've gotten lately. I'm gonna do this myself

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Guess who's getting their first donation ever from me.

Wait, maybe that's what he wanted to have happen. Maybe?

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Please do not assign reverse altruism to horrible actions being done by horrible people.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 37 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm at the point now where I believe every possible thing he wants will be to the detriment of humanity.

He almost certainly does not want that

I think I'll do the same

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Eh. He wants to be king of Mars. Making life as shit as possible on Earth would certainly help speed that process up.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

King of Mars while living on earth. Do you really think he'd want to live there? He might visit once, but probably by VR.

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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 day ago
[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 39 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I have my issues with Wikipedia, and he’s not wrong about the concentration of power amongst editors. However, fuck Elon Musk. He’s just mad that he can’t control Wikipedia himself.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

he’s not wrong about the concentration of power amongst editors

The classic problem of an open-edit document like Wikipedia is the manpower it takes to manage the project properly relative to the incentives to fuck with it by malicious actors. Elon's answer to this problem is to monetize the sinking ship to the hilt and then use the excess revenues to buy the next new thing. The Jimmy Wales approach is to build out a network of trusted administrators and semi-trusted volunteers to play wack-a-mole on this one single project forever.

Originally, the theory of Wikipedia was that you'd have far more good actors than bad. Therefore, the bulk of the encyclopedia would accumulate useful information that went largely unmolested and didn't need to be babysat by live humans. This... hasn't proven to be the case. So the costs of the website continue to expand as the content base does.

Automation of spammers, scammers, and malicious actors has made the problem even more difficult. And I have no doubt that Elon's own digital vandalism efforts have taken their toll as well. There's simply too much economic incentive to fuck with the public's understanding of the world for a project like Wikipedia to go ignored.

I'm afraid its days are ultimately numbered, precisely because too many people trust it.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm proud to downvote this screed of baseless doomsaying but I'm dismayed at the fact that I'm the only one doing so.

Just goes to show that you come to Lemmy because of the potential of a federated platform, not for the reality of its current community (which is absolute garbage.)

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

this screed of baseless doomsaying

If you think enshittification can't come for you, its only a matter of time before you're proven wrong.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

If you think that enshittification of all platforms everywhere is completely inevitable and we should just throw up our hands and give up at the slightest threat then you're unfortunately in good company here.

[–] ironsoap@lemmy.one 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Makes me wonder if you won't see and Andrew Carnegie of this era step up and endow it against his fellow capitalist.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago

Never donated to Wikipedia in my life, but now I do, and its monthly. It's not much, but it's honestly work.

[–] Live_Let_Live@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

this guy is really good at making enemies

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

He's a vulture capitalist. Very good at finding ways to cannibalize a nice public thing for the benefit of a handful of private malicious actors.

That's always going to make enemies. But so what? You're a vulture. You can always pick up and leave today, then find another wounded animal to prey on tomorrow.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

Thank you Elon for reminding me to donate.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 12 points 22 hours ago

He’s such a snowflake

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 13 points 23 hours ago

Leon Skum urges people not to donate? That's a good reason to donate.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago

Fuck you I'm gonna donate even harder

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

Leave it to wingnut trolls like Musk to politicize everything.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Musk is such a dumbass.

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