It’s almost like the whole thing is a politically motivated false impeachment to try to discredit Trump being impeached twice. They only want to impeach Biden because they can then point and say “Biden was impeached too, it means nothing”
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Premeditated whataboutism. Because that’s a great use of resources to benefit the country.
Premeditated whataboutism. Because that’s a great use of resources to benefit the country.
This engine runs on bullshit.
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Oh just wait til you see how they allocate those resources if they ever fully seize power again.
We made the government too expensive so we have added middle men to all the formerly public services. This will surely reduce costs and not directly line our pockets.
Public private partnership pilfering.
buttery males
It's a bit more urgent than that: The GOP knows they're about to lose their majority in the house so this is the only chance they'll get to do something like an impeachment. If they put it off any longer they'll run out of time while the investigation committee follows a normal (intentionally slowed by opposition) congressional schedule. They know that the whole exercise will be pointless if they can't get it done now because doing it any later will result in the investigation committee having nothing to report in time for the next election.
More importantly: They have no other ideas. They literally have no other bills or even inklings of an idea as to how to grab America's attention in anything resembling a positive or even neutral light. They lost abortion as a wedge issue now that Roe V Wade was overturned so the GOP is basically out of ideas because while they love to hate immigrants and LGBTQ people they don't have any politically useful legislation to bring up before the next election. Nothing they can pass to say, "see? We did something and the Democrats in the Senate blocked it!"
Don't worry, they're loading up every spending bill they can with bans for trans care.
From Erin Reed:
One of the many sticking points are provisions in the budget bill that target trans people in the military, hospitals that care for trans youth, trans health insurance, and VA trans care.
Republicans will down the government, in at least some small part, over trans panic.
And the military, thanks to Tooberville
I just love the attitude that they'll chase nonexistent bullshit to go after biden, while the government races towards a shutdown because these ASSHATS can't run a country
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All the GOP knows how to do is stroke Trump's pathetic ego.
Well, that, and their date while watching a musical, I guess.
It cant fall apart, cause it never had any structure to begin with. It was a pile of bullshit from the very beginning.
Its all political theater to try to make Biden look as corrupt as Trump, and in desperation to find anything that will stick before the next election cycle.
Doesn't even need to make him look corrupt, it reinforces "impeachment is just political theater" and makes Trump's impeachment(s) retroactively more normalized.
It's a trick that Republicans can only use once, because if it succeeds they'll have tainted the idea of impeachment for a generation. They don't care because they're playing for all the marbles, trying to permanently cement one-party rule. Shit like this is one of the reasons why I call them the American Taliban without a trace of irony.
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I'm always a big fan of primary sources to avoid any political spin. Looking at this doc it's 100% clear that the State department was calling for Shokin's removal and was instructing Biden on how to frame the conversation. Seems pretty clear cut.
With that being said, I am 100% confident that this will have no impact on House Republican plans to pursue impeachment.
With that being said, I am 100% confident that this will have no impact on House Republican plans to pursue impeachment.
they've never been the kind of folks who let evidence and facts get in the way
The public didn't have the document until now, but you can bet Republican leaders & committee chairs at the very least were well aware of it, and the information that this was not only US Gov't policy, but internationally backed by our allies has been widely reported since the beginning. I have to assume McCarthy knows and doesn't care.
Not just US interests, but European and Ukrainian interests as well. There was a multi-national effort to remove Shokin. You think Joe Biden orchestrated all of that to get his son a cushy board membership? It's laughable.
GOP: Let's impeach the government then!
Of course it would. This is simply just retaliation from the GOP because their glorious former "leader" was impeached like, twice.
To be fair, Trump would probably turn around and say that he was impeached more times than Joe.
also, he had huge, tremendous impeachments. some say, the best
Big, strong men - some with tears in their eyes - saying "sir, your impeachments were the best!" You should have seen it.
This is immediately obvious to anyone who followed the timeline of events.
Removing Shokin didn't STOP the Burisma investigation. It allowed it to move forward! Shokin was the guy slow-walking it.
https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/
Just irrelevant details to people who were never looking for the truth in the first place
I spent MONTHS saying that on every subreddit I could find. It's baffling to me why that never sunk in with even the casual observers of Trump's impeachment. It's like putting a spoon full of food in a toddler's mouth and watching it ooze out because they still don't even realize it's there.
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Doesn't matter, Fox has their ~~talking~~ yelling point. That's all they ever wanted.
Their idiot viewers will take this as a continuation of a massive conspiracy against trump. Either way, this will still be a victory for the GQP at large. It’s impossible to reason with those that argue in bad faith.
“suffered a blow”
boebert still on board
The entire Freedumb Caucus is still on board. The "shocking" revelation that Biden hasn't committed any impeachable acts isn't going to deter the GQP at all.
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Dear Republicans: how does Democracy's dick taste?
This isn't new information. It was already well-understood and discussed that Biden was simply following State Dept. directives on this and that it had nothing to do with Hunter or even his own preferences.
It also isn't a blow to the impeachment at all. They'll likely follow through anyway even if there is literally no probable cause. Even if there isn't even a pretend crime to name. Because there's one huge similarity between the Trump impeachments and the Biden impeachment: the basis is that Republicans are scofflaws that will do whatever they want to get what they want.
Come on, now. This whole thing reeks of desperation and petty grudge.
It falling apart would require it ever having built up. There was nothing to fall apart here.
They’re going to move forward with it. This has nothing to do with facts. It’s all about using impeachment to gain a political leg up if you have the votes.
The Fox and OAN viewers will be sheltered from the facts.
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I’d say the damage is done regardless because their entire political party is based on a smoke and mirror show designed for the purpose of redirecting their voting base away from anything then shows them in a negative light.
All then need to do is place the idea of something scary and distracting in their voters empty brains, and the idiots will become so obsessed with it they’d be willing to commit crimes to stop it, ie: Jan 6th.
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“Of course it was official policy. The deep state was protecting Hunter.”
I’ll take my corner office at World News Corp. and Hannity’s spot now, thank you
The House Oversight Committee will hold the first hearing on the impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden on Sept. 28, CNBC reports.
Democrats should turn it into a circus and spend the whole hearing mocking Jordan over locker rooms / Gaetz over pool boys / etc; if they end up getting kicked out of the room or even censured, they can high-five each other and laugh it off. There's no reason to treat a cheap political stunt with anything resembling respect or seriousness.
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