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Amendments to the PayPal Privacy Statement Effective November 27, 2024:

We are updating our Privacy Statement to explain how, starting early Summer 2025, we will share information to help improve your shopping experience and make it more personalized for you. The key update to the Privacy Statement explains how we will share information with merchants to personalize your shopping experience and recommend our services to you. Personal information we disclose includes, for example, products, preferences, sizes, and styles we think you’ll like. Information gathered about you after the effective date of our updated Privacy Statement, November 27, 2024, will be shared with participating stores where you shop, unless you live in California, North Dakota, or Vermont. For PayPal customers in California, North Dakota, or Vermont, we’ll only share your information with those merchants if you tell us to do so. No matter where you live, you’ll always be able to exercise your right to opt out of this data sharing by updating your preference settings in your account under “Data and Privacy.”

edit: update title to reflect this is for PayPal USA users

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[–] credo@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Lol, paypal now has an option to store your SSN and passport info. What a scam.

Account deleted.

https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/privacy/ -> Delete your data / close account

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[–] asymmetric@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Is this a thing for EU accounts, or does GDPR prevent it?

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago

good thing i canceled my paypal account years ago and specificially told them to delete all information about me, not that i have much trust they obey the law if they can get away with it

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks! Turned that BS off right now!

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 131 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Just logged in, just found it, just opted out. Thanks for the heads-up OP.

But fucking fuck. Can we put a stop to this? Legally? We could call it sometime like... The National Opt-out Policy Elimination (NOPE) Act or something.

[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 79 points 4 days ago (14 children)
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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It should have to be opt-in ☠️

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Most things should be. Hell, one of Google's biggest public failures was building an opt-out social media network that let all sorts of people see who you've emailed lately.

[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago

Same... So tiring. Fighting to not be someone else's product just by existing

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[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 62 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Imagine if you lived in a country with a banking system so modern, that nobody needed Paypal or Venmo.

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Still need PayPal for some transactions that require a credit card. In the Netherlands, credit cards aren't as commonplace as in the USA since we only pay with money we actually have.

I'm not saying I discredit your argument, I'm just angry at companies requiring either a credit card or PayPal (or even worse, those buy now pay later deals).

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 4 days ago

Look up Pix in Brazil.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oh, like the free bank transfers we've had in the UK since...... 1997..?

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes. What a lot of Americans don't realise is that in other countries, bank account numbers are standardised to include pre-defined bank and branch information. In a sense, account number includes what americans think of as routing number.

People trade bank account numbers like business cards. Businesses post their account numbers for payment. Even a flyer for a local school fundraiser will have an account number listed on it. If you buy something from someone, the seller tells you his account number. You log into your bank and transfer the funds instantly, whether it's $10 or $10000. You don't need to know anything except the recipient's account number.

It's free. It's painless. It's interconnected. It's bank agnostic. The movement of small monies between individuals should not be commoditised.

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[–] malloc@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

US has been playing catch up for decades. FedNow was implemented in 2023 to allow instant P2P payments between banks thereby eliminating the need for PayPal, Cash App, Venmo, et al.

It will take some time before we see banks make this fully available to everyone and subsequently merchants using it.

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[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 54 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's illegal in the EU.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 7 points 4 days ago

Hence it only applies in the US.

[–] snrkl@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I only skim read, but the provided link seems to me that opting out isn't an option:

However, if you would prefer to decline them, then you will need to close your PayPal account prior to the applicable effective date, as described in the user agreement.

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A number of changes are being made at the same time, and only some of them can be opted-out of. This Lemmy post is focusing on one in particular that can.

[–] turtletracks@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 days ago

Well, bye PayPal

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemy.lol 12 points 4 days ago

Exactly. That's how you opt out of this shitty practice.

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Thanks for the heads up 👍

Here's the direct link to disabling it but I assume Capcha or login will probably get in the way: https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/privacy/settings/recommendations

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[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

In the Android app, open your profile, tap Data and Privacy, then Personalized Shopping, then toggle it off.

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 22 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Misleading. This only applies to the US.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 3 days ago

Was gonna say... The EU would have been up their arses with a cactus for that.

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[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Sigh, yet another enshittified service to cancel.

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[–] Coach@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Thank you. Just closed my account. Didn't need it anyway and I sure as fuck don't need to be generating income for PayPal anymore.

[–] Nonononoki@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Tugboater203@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Thanks for the heads up, I would have missed that.

[–] Alatarius@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 4 days ago

At least 3 states have common sense laws to auto opt-out. I think every state should have these privacy laws, even if those 3 are minimal at best.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Venmo is owned by PayPal, but I couldn't find any information about if similar Venmo TOS changes are planned or already in effect.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Whatever the parent company does tends to trickle down.

So Safe to always assume it does.

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[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Anyone know if this applies to Canada too? I looked but couldn't find it.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

US:

https://www.paypal.com/us/legalhub/privacy-full

Last updated on March 28, 2024

Canada:

https://www.paypal.com/ca/legalhub/privacy-full

Last updated on July 24, 2023

So I'd guess not.

But you might just want to keep an eye on that, because just because they haven't changed it today doesn't mean that they won't later. Like, if their people are thinking that this is a good idea to make money in the US, they might also think that it'd be useful in Canada. Don't know if Canada has any restrictions on such a change.

[–] malloc@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Page mentions “Notice of Amendment(s) to the United States PayPal Agreement(s)”. So it’s likely US only (for now).

If you don’t see the “Data and Privacy” option to opt out on their website or app. Then it’s likely they are not sharing your data, yet.

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