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DMCA for them, no DMCA for us.

And this is why I don't have ANY moral qualms about pirating shit: they'd do it to us in a heartbeat if there was a buck to be made.

You're always morally justified to steal from Microsoft

Oh hey, Microsoft support moving away from copyright!

He's right, information wants to be free. Don't support stronger copyright just to spite people it'll benefit

Pirating Windows for your own personal, private use, which will never directly make you a single dollar: HIGHLY ILLEGAL

Scraping your creative works so they can make billions by selling automated processes that compete against your work: Perfectly fine and normal!

Its not stolen if it is still there afterwards.

Anyone in this thread is creating derivative works and you should not be reading it without the written permission of verge.com's parent company.

In other news: we have lawyers to protect our copyrights, you don't. Suck it.

Sure bud, pirating some Microsoft Studio video games and windows ISOs right now. What? I found them on the open web!

copying is not theft

Copyright infrigment is not theft, training models is not copyright infringement either. We need a law equivalent to when an artist says "he's inpired by someone else" . That it specifically is illegal to do that without permission if you use a machine. That will force big tech to pay a pittance for it and it will instakill all the small player.

So if I see it on the “open web”, I’m free to use it however I please? Oh, I get thrown in jail and everything I own taken away.

If companies are people per “citizens united”, why doesn’t the same apply to them?

That's funny, so do I.

He spoke carelessly, but he didn't exactly say what the author said he said. You can in fact do many things with it. Copyright doesn't care what you do if you aren't copying. That's the definition of the word.

Apparently he thinks data is like the ducks you find in the park

so we can steal Microsoft's products?

It's okay to plagiarize books if they're in a library.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Microsoft AI boss Mustafa Suleyman incorrectly believes that the moment you publish anything on the open web, it becomes “freeware” that anyone can freely copy and use.

When CNBC’s Andrew Ross Sorkin asked him whether “AI companies have effectively stolen the world’s IP,” he said:

That certainly hasn’t kept many AI companies from claiming that training on copyrighted content is “fair use,” but most haven’t been as brazen as Suleyman when talking about it.

Speaking of brazen, he’s got a choice quote about the purpose of humanity shortly after his “fair use” remark:

Suleyman does seem to think there’s something to the robots.txt idea — that specifying which bots can’t scrape a particular website within a text file might keep people from taking its content.

Disclosure: Vox Media, The Verge’s parent company, has a technology and content deal with OpenAI.

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