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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 91 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Comrades. Not everyone has a good org near them and for some it's even dangerous to organize. Preferably people join an org in which they can spread communist thoughts of course.

[–] Leninismydad@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Some comrades also have disabilities.

[–] Henkire@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's me with my ocular albinism.

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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 11 months ago

the above comment gets my infamous rodent seal of approval

[–] VictimOfAmerikkka@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 11 months ago

Agitpropers, maybe?

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Haha yeah cries over draft of party programma I've been working on for months on end

[–] LoomingMountain@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Too recognisable. I've been writing a pamflette on why billionaires shouldn't exist for the past 5 months.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No wonder! It's going to be difficult to cram that into a pamphlet!

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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 11 months ago
[–] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 11 months ago
[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago
[–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 11 months ago
[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

A very necessary but unproductive stage for early lefties to breach. Not sure what to call it

[–] funky_tomatoe@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I think this is a great way to put it. As someone who is in this phase himself acknowledging the necessity of this stage while also acknowledging the necessity of moving forward makes me feel seen and motivates me to continue on my path of expanding my understanding of Marxism and getting involved.

[–] big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same, although I have considered joining an org

[–] funky_tomatoe@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Been here for a while as well. I'm starting to get involved in the Palestinie protests we have here and it honestly feels great. I'm volunteering and even writing a speech atm, which I'm planning on presenting at one of the upcoming protests. If I can do it so can you!

[–] bubbalu@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

It's a liminal stage, one I went through. Often, this is a plateau for petty bourgeoisie people who have accepted intellectually that proletarian revolution is morally correct and necessary, but who are unwilling to risk their position yet. A common justification is "I don't know enough to take action." (where does knowledge come from? social practice and lived experience.) or worse "The best thing I have to contribute is my intellectual/cultural labor." (divorced from organization and direct struggle, this labor can have no outlet.)

As Liv Agar describes smoking: we have the contradictory desires to 1) quit smoking because we know intellectually it is bad for us and 2) continue smoking because it feels good. Often this is reconciled by justifying each cigarette.

'Oh, I had a hard day at work and deserve a treat.' 'Oh, I am out dancing and you just can't dance without smoking.' 'Oh, I'm going to quit soon but I'm not ready yet and so its not really bad to have this one since its practically my last cigarette.'

Of course, what's really motivating this thinking is a chemical addiction to nicotine; the material conditions of your body are pushing you towards a decision and you are just rationalizing what you were going to do anyways.

Similarly, many posters and other armchair leftists are essentially motivated by their fear of losing their petty bourgeois positionality—which is to say their class interest—but are compelled to justify ~inaction to maintain psychological integrity.

Fundamentally, communism is Jewish and not Christian; it is about actions and not beliefs. It is good to have sympathies (even sympathies it is not safe or possible to act on, as @Leninismydad@lemmygrad.ml and @DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml point out below) but ultimately to be a communist is to be engaged in the class struggle for the working class and the abolition of Capitalism. As Marx puts it, "The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."

[–] WideningGyro@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Fundamentally, communism is Jewish and not Christian; it is about actions and not beliefs.

Can you please elaborate on this?

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[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They're the support player in the team fight.

[–] VictimOfAmerikkka@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 11 months ago

The Marxist cheerleaders?

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 11 months ago
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Armchair revolutionaries, left-coms, Bordiga, etc.

[–] VictimOfAmerikkka@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think “left-com” is right.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sorry, my tendency leaked through lol

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

Armchair leftists.

[–] NikkiB@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 11 months ago

Armchair socialist

[–] Adhriva@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's a quote from Huey Newton, "The first lesson a revolutionary must learn is that he is a doomed man." You're describing the stage/phase/step before the comrade has come to terms with that first lesson. And because it is the first step, we also see a big part of why the Western left is still learning to walk/baby steps.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's perfect. It distilled all my feelings about it down to one sentence. They're going to kill us slowly if we don't do anything, and they might kill us quickly if we do. But we're dead either way. So fight back.

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[–] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Hexbear Users

[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The only irl praxis I do now is showing up at protests and partaking in the election campaign for my party. I feel like that isn't enough. :(

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That's more than many armchair warriors do in their lifetime. Which party are you active for if you don't mind sharing?

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[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

of course I know him, it's me!

[–] ProbablyKaffe@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Liberals

jk... ~~Taliban~~ Students

[–] IronicallyInTheWest@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago

idk, i was like this for a time but now im looking forward to officially join the communist party of my country and have gone to two protest and helped the communist party distribute flyers. Praxis can be a lot of things but most importantly it is to connect with fellow leftists and to organize either your workplace or the party.

Anything from going to a protest to putting up stickers of an organization is a 1000% more than anything any of these "armchair-leftists" will ever do, not because they cant, but because they are comfortable with their position in society (be it petit-bourgeois or labor aristocrat) and dont actually want a revolution to happen any time in the future.

[–] bubbalu@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago
[–] Posadist_Paladin@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

content barbarians. posting through it

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

I’m mostly trying to hide from everything so me I guess

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago
[–] toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago
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