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I can’t give more approval for this woman, she handled everything so well.

The backstory is that Cloudflare overhired and wanted to reduce headcount, rightsize, whatever terrible HR wording you choose. Instead of admitting that this was a layoff, which would grant her things like severance and unemployment - they tried to tell her that her performance was lacking.

And for most of us (myself included) we would angrily accept it and trash the company online. Not her, she goes directly against them. It of course doesn’t go anywhere because HR is a bunch of robots with no emotions that just parrot what papa company tells them to, but she still says what all of us wish we did.

(Warning, if you've ever been laid off this is a bit enraging and can bring up some feelings)

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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

I am very familiar with HR at multiple fortune 500 corporations.

You're so close to getting the point. You realize HR are the executives' scapegoats. HR's purpose is to serve the rich assholes fucking everyone else over. Anyone working HR is complicit whether they're intelligent enough to realize it, or just a useful idiot. Execs want and need their scapegoats. People should realize this and avoid HR (class traitor) jobs.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

HR exists to insulate people with real authority in a business from those who suffer from their whims. In a lot of companies, your job is to get yelled at so some ghoulish C level executive isn't forced to strain their neurons processing the emotional reality of the fact that their decisions impact real people in negative ways. It might disrupt their "objectivity" and make it harder to issue layoffs next time.

[–] dabu@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well, if you're working for that company in any other role your purpose is to serve the rich assholes anyway.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just don't get a job in HR and no one can get fired. It's that easy guys.

HR is a legitimate job and serves and important purpose in the structure of a company. You can't dismiss it by saying their purpose is to serve rich assholes because that's the purpose of every job at a company. That's work, that's most jobs.

[–] owen@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except HR's entire purpose is to insulate management. They're not exactly producing anything

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Production of goods is not relevant at all there are plenty of valid jobs that do not produce anything. Having an HR department in a large company allows other departments to focus on what they are good at and have HR handle all the employee contracts, hiring, firing, complaints, performance reviews, leave etc.

[–] owen@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All those tasks you listed are really the responsibility of management. HR is basically the grease between the decisions of upper management and the reactions of the lowly prawns

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 11 months ago

They can be the responsibility of management in smaller companies but at scale they require a department.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Anyone in the company is serving the rich assholes fucking everyone else over. All the money they are producing goes to the rich assholes.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Better yet, get a job in HR and sabotage the company from the inside!

Though, the reality is that most menial HR jobs are like any other menial non-decision maker jobs, in any other area of the business, so your argument is just as applicable to, and just as disingenuous, for most roles in any business — e.g. like arguing janitor's at EvilCorp are complicit class traitors because they enrich EvilCorp and facilitate it's success.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

No. Most jobs do not directly involve enacting bad worker related decisions.

An engineer will never, ever come in and fire you for some made up reason. HR will.

You are conflating the fact that HR does not need to exist like the jobs that do the actual work need to exist. They are not the same. Ever.

[–] oce@jlai.lu -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't that also apply to engineers working for those rich assholes? Because there are a lot of engineers working for rich assholes here who like to trash HR, starting with me.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No. What? HR does company dirty work. Engineers do actual work. What the fuck is the relation there??

[–] oce@jlai.lu -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They both prostitute themselves to serve the rich to get more money even though they are educated enough to have the freedom to choose whom to work for.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ahh yes, and Marx wasn't a real socialist because he sold books for money... You are choosing to miss the very obvious nuance and that is incredibly stupid to choose to do.

[–] oce@jlai.lu -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're talking about nuance after the vast generalization you wrote about HR? May beyou could self reflect on that nuance notion.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not the one failing to understand the difference between HR work and engineering work.

"nuance" was said in jest, because that diffrence goes FAR beyond nuance, yet you still don't see it. Pathetic.