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Trump says he ‘shouldn’t have left’ the White House as he closes campaign with increasingly dark message (www.cnn.com)
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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

“I shouldn’t have left. I mean, honestly, because we did so, we did so well,” Trump said during his rally in Lititz as he claimed the US-Mexico border was more secure under his administration.

It was a rare public admission of regret over participating in the peaceful transfer of power after he incited his supporters to violently storm the US Capitol as he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election that he lost but refused to concede — something Trump is currently facing federal charges over.

Old White Man Getting Stomped By A Brown Woman Prosecutor Is A Challenge To Your No Nut November

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

He's not even saying he should have left because he thinks the election was a fraud. He's saying he shouldn't have left because he did a good job.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 0 points 8 hours ago

Who is stealing all the nuts?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

No Nut November

This is still a thing? Ugh. Can't wait to constantly read about it for the next month.

[–] terabytes@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

Might I suggest No Nag November as an alternative?

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do not let the Orange Turd near anything other than a coke.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Does that include a jail cell?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Shouldn't have left? As if he had a choice - if necessary he would have been carried out.

On the plus side it's nice to see him telegraph that he knows he is about to lose. IDK how this shit-for-brains moron was such a good con man. Everything he says is a tell.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 143 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He’s never won the popular vote and he never will. The majority of Americans despise this Russian agent/asset.

The electoral college is an antiquated relic employed to game the system for Republicans and needs to go.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Even if we got rid of it, the senate is still non representative with small states wielding more power, and the house isn't proportional because the seats are capped.

So much is fucked.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

So let's win and push for ranked choice.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree. It’s fucked that a citizen in Wyoming has a vote weighted much more heavily than a citizen in California or New York.

However, as far as the Presidential race is concerned we have been screwed at least twice (Georgia G.W. Bush 2000, Trump 2016) by the electoral college usurping the mandate from the masses.

Gotta start somewhere. Out with the electoral college, we are not commuting by horseback any longer.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we are not commuting by horseback any longer.

Is there some reference specifically to the electoral college and horses, or was this just about the passage of time?

Half of me thinks there was something very specific about horses and the college after you wrote that lol.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

One of the arguments for the electoral college was that news travels by horseback and a new development needed a representative at Washington to accout for it.

These representatives (electors) must therefore be able to vote differently that how they were asked to if they deem the situation requires it. Say it's uncovered that one candidate was plotting treason, or has a heart attack.

Because we can communicate instantaneously now, electors are not needed to vote for people or states anymore; a direct vote is easily accomplished.

The unfair allocation of those votes is a different aspect of the Electoral College, but also a reason to be rid of it.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Ah thanks, I knew about this part "tne candidate was plotting treason, or has a heart attack." but didn't know the back story on that.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

I sure wish electors would vote differently if a candidate was plotting treason.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's how the Senate is designed and intended. That's not the issue. The capped House functions as a second Senate because it no longer represents population correctly, because of that cap imposed in the 1920s.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Its intended, but it's still a problem. It gives disproportionate power to smaller states and it gets worse as certain areas grow and other don't.

Wyoming with a population of 581k in 2022 wields as much power in the senate as California with 39 million.

And if you control either the house or senate, you can pretty much stall almost anything.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE SENATE. It is the reason Congress is separated in two the way it is.

In the Senate, every State is equal, regardless of physical size or population. A foundational pillar of our Union has always been State equality. The Senate is working EXACTLY as designed, it is there specifically to prevent large States from dictating what smaller States have to do. Larger States have their bigger voice heard in the House. The two serve very different purposes.

The real issue is the House needs to actually be proportional again. The cap at 435 means it cannot be properly representative with States like Delaware and California both existing. A representative in Delaware represents a fraction of the number of people as a Rep in California because the cap limits how that apportionment works. Without the artificial cap from the 1920s, and proper apportionment by population again, our House of Representatives would be more like 1,600 members and actually representative of this country instead of being a glorified pseudo Senate.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE SENATE

I really do get that, you don't have to try and explain it again, but it doesn't mean it's serving the country any further, just like the electoral college isn't severing the country or first past the post isn't.

Things change, and it turns out that this system is allowing for the tyranny of minority which is ironically is the opposite of the intended effect of it preventing tyranny of the majority.

I'm not offering a solution, I'm just saying its a problem just like the others. Everything can be reformed if there a problems.

But yes as I said, fixing the house would be a start.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

A foundational pillar of our Union has always been State equality.

Foundational pillars can be dumb and undemocratic. They were trying to pull together largely independent entities two hundred years ago during a fragile time that really needed unity, not setting out a perfect democratic system. There's a reason we don't just make copies of the American system when we regime change democracies into existence.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

The Senate was never meant to be proportionate, and that would be perfectly fine if the House was actually proportionate.

[–] expr@programming.dev 5 points 13 hours ago

While that's true, it doesn't make it right. All representation should be proportionate.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago

That in no way makes it perfectly fine. It's an undemocratic kluge when trying to get individual states that were acting as independent entities to sign on. The founders weren't prophetic visionaries handing down the perfect democracy. They were horse trading for practical goals and dealing with the limitations stemming from literal horses being used to carry messages.

There's a reason when we regime-change we don't install clones of our own system.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

And if the House was as able to block appointees.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Waaaah waaahh waaah! All this motherfucker does is cry and play victim. How people see him as a strongman blows my fucking mind.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's the paradox of the modern conservative; simultaneously gun toting manly men with no time for woke libtard cucks and also the whiniest bunch of snowflake piss babies ever to walk the earth.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

Same for the opposite side in their mind, they're both the weakest people alive but they somehow still control everything

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty convinced it's just angry ignorant bitches that want to see the world burn. Sadly there are tons of them.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 41 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Goddammit. I was so hoping he'd refuse to leave. Watching him be literally dragged out, crying, in handcuffs would have been a wonderful sight.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that's the only reason he left. He would've been literally dragged out of there, and facing up to a hard reality of an embarrassing moment for him was the only thing that registered in his pea brain so he had to avoid it.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

It was the Joint Chiefs letter dated around then.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He should have just kept doing The Apprentice, literally everyone would be happier and generally better off.

[–] Podunk@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats the thing everyone forgets. He never planned on winning. He didnt want to win. Go watch him right after they announced victory. The man was lost. The plan was always do the show circuit and play victim and rake in the money without any responsibility for his shitty actions.

He didnt want it either, but all that is left is toperpetually double down. And here we are...

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks, Obama!

I jest, but I seriously believe he ran because Obama embarrassed him with a joke at that political dinner event. I do not actually blame Obama.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

I blame Obama (and now, Biden) for continuing to expand the powers of the executive office instead of undoing Bush's expansions. The president isn't supposed to be this powerful. People like trump are the reason why.

[–] Laristal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

I wonder how many people would still be alive of he'd done that, between pandemic mismanagement, vaccine hesitancy that he championed, and various other things that don't come to mind off the top of my head, he's got a significant amount of blood on his hands, directly and indirectly.

Him being elected will only make it worse.

[–] businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

“Arnold Palmer was all man, and I say that in all due respect to women, I love women,” Trump said. “This man was strong and tough, and I refused to say it, but when he took showers with the other pros they came out of there, they said, ‘Oh, my God. That’s unbelievable.’”

lmao

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

A few days later he sucked off his microphone on stage.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

LOL shoulder pads

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

hes right. he shouldve been physically kicked out or carried out kicking and screaming like the spoiled baby bitch he is

[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Goddamn PIECE OF SHIT

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

The country received an eviction letter from the Joint Chiefs. Trump was leaving no matter what.