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Winn always made my skin crawl!

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 119 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (14 children)

Come on, Pulaski wasn't that bad. She even had a decent character arc to become likeable. Winn though.. yeah we hate her.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 31 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Are you saying Winn didn't have character arc?

She had the biggest arc in startrek and it was masterfully acted...

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 11 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Pulaski was a better Doctor on her worst day than Beverly ever could be.

[–] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Come on now, I don’t want to get in an argument with a dumbass, but the Beverley character had some fine moments.

I’ll give you ghost sex, and collapsing universes, but she was pleasant. Really she was there for to give Picard more emotional dynamism.

Pulaski was kinda baller though, I liked her. She had opinions and wasn’t afraid to express them. Even better she would reevaluate them upon have more data. I have a 3D printer named after her. I print my with my favorite plastic on it, TPU.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 98 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Yeah, but you're supposed to dislike Winn, she's the villain. Her acting was perfect for the role.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Good villains make you want to crawl in through the screen and punch them, and boy is Kai Winn a punchable character.

Ironically, I have never wanted to punch Q, but Sisko punched him and never Winn.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I always got the impression that everything Q did was simply irritating. Winn made decisions that actively risked people's lives because she was looking for career advancement. She was actually a threat.

Also they kind of knew that Q wouldn't actually allow anyone to get hurt because he probably wasn't allowed to.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 4 days ago

Q did things that were ultimately to the benefit of the characters. Picard is a better person from Tapestry alone. I wouldn't even call Q a villain. Antagonist, yes, but not a villain.

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[–] Landslide7648@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 days ago
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yes but she was meant to be hated the other characters were just annoying characters but she was actually meant to be a bad guy.

I also love the idea that Getty images somehow has a copyright on the picture. How can they possibly have copyright they didn't take the picture it's a screenshot from a TV series.

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[–] HarbingerOfTomb@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Dukat has entered the chat

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 4 days ago (3 children)

He's hated. But in a way that makes you want to see more of him.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Arising from the ashes, Rey Skywalker joins the fray.


Seriously tho I have seen way more mainstream hate for Rey.

Not that Star Wars is scifi as much as space opera. Nor does it technically count as a TV series as much as a film series.

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I think she's the banner target for frustration with the Disney sequels. Almost like Jar Jar for people who didn't like the prequels, although now that it's been 20 years people don't seem to hate Jar Jar as much.

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[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To this day I am still sad Kira wasn't the one to do her in at the end.

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[–] Blackout@fedia.io 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't get me started with this guy and his fake British accent Ello Gov'nor

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[–] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago

I love the way the two principle evils of DS9 are both motivated by a deep conviction that they have been treated unfairly.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Getting Nurse Ratched to play Kai Winn was genius casting.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

She's Kai Box 'o Wine for sure.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 4 days ago

Charlie.

The other two were intentionally contentious and had good actresses. Charlie was nothing more than a poorly written strawman

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Eh, the doctor character was the worst one to me. The religious woman was a character you were intended to dislike, but the doctor character I believe was intended to just be a curmudgeon who is generally good, except she wound up being extremely off putting instead.

She was supposed to be like Dr.McCoy from TOS. They were going for a Spock/McCoy type relationship between her and Data. Data was a far more autistic coded character than Spock plus there was a different dynamic because Spock was rejecting his human half and Data was striving to be more human so it mostly just came off as her being super abusive to a fan favorite character.

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