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[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • Die in a few weeks? No
  • Get more users than reddit? No
  • Be a place in the long run for privacy minded people to escape corporatism and have discussions about any topic? Yes
[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Let's be real, most of the growth of Reddit over the last 5 or so years haven't been the type of folks generating good content and discussion anyway. Even if Lemmy gets like 1% of the userbase this place is going to thrive.

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[–] Vaggumon@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was here before the Reddit implosion, will be after. Question is, will you be?

[–] runswithjedi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will be. I've had so much fun on Lemmy over the past couple of weeks. Way more than I ever had in Reddit. Y'all are great!

[–] Vaggumon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Glad to hear it. I deleted 2 accounts with over 100k karama, and moved fully to Lemmy. I'm here to stay as well. Reddit is dead to me.

[–] lunarshot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

100%, 12 year daily reddit user - feels like I’m out of a bad relationship. I moved all my third party apps off three weeks ago and have replaced all my time with Lemmy and the Fediverse.

I didn’t realize how poorly the experience had degraded - scrolling content mindlessly, most interactions were dull and sometimes weirdly antagonistic.

Conversely, my experience on Lemmy has been interesting content with more depth, connecting with people in a warm and welcoming way. I don’t expect this to become reddit - I wouldn’t really want it to.

I am excited for a future here as the third party apps are removed last this week and we can start a new adventure together.

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[–] sota2077@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This place has existed for a lot longer than the last month.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I don't think it'll die... but it is a community that needs to be built basically from the ground up, while both the Lemmy/fediverse backend technology and infrastructure are actively being developed. Reddit refugees who want a drop-in alternative to doomscroll will probably be the first to leave.

The success or failure will be determined by the number of people willing to make an effort to post. Whether Lemmy (or the fediverse in general) will exceed the numbers of other services... I doubt it, but we wouldn't be here if we only cared about numbers.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy was here before Reddit and it’ll be around for a long time.

[–] HorseFD@lemmy.buzz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Presumably you mean Lemmy was here before the recent reddit implosion

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Correct. Good catch.

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Hmmm the main question is whether it can get it's content to show up in search results - this being the main selling point of Reddit and other platforms.

Right now, if you help someone fix an issue it's pretty much walled in and unavailable.

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[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personal opinion: activity will spike around now, then plateau not much lower than its peak. It'll probably never be as popular as Reddit. I imagine most people will run into some minor inconvenience, then never try to use it again, and the rest of us will be here for years.

[–] sirnak@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I guess a big spike is still ahead, which will be around Saturday, once the 3rd party reddit apps shut down for good.

[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two things to bear in mind...

  1. Lemmy existed before this current reddit fiasco, so it will exist after

  2. there are a critical mass of users now, and imo the userbase will continue to grow, with more and more unique content added

  3. Android / iOS apps are out, and in development. Mod tools are coming (iirc). As fediverse becomes less technical / easier to use, it's only going to attract more people

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[–] cryptosporidium140@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think I'll still be here, I've been noticing a decline in Reddit for a long time and this API stuff is just the excuse I needed to leave. If enough other people think like me I'll always have a reason to be here.

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[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Mate, it wasn't just created. This site has been around for a while

It depends on the growth curve. Right now it's exponential, which means it will keep growing. When you see it stay linear for a while, it'll probably start to flatten. At that point, it's either big enough to stick or it's not.

I’ll be here. I like that it takes a little more effort, it’s a little cumbersome or gatekeepy, but it also seems to keep the vibe more like the early internet and less like whatever it has currently turned into.

It reminds me of crypto spaces but without the incentive and monetization of action that seems to lead to a scammy and disingenuous feel to the content.

[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think and hope the fediverse will thrive in the years to come. It's the only way for us users to keep control over the platforms we use and feed.

It's time for the healthier internet we deserve. Networks like Facebook and Twitter have pushed toxic content to their users solely on the purpose of creating engagement. The World would be a very different place if that content had been moderated correctly instead of being pushed toward suggestible population.

I won't go back.

[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy will last because it was already around. I don't think it will die in a few weeks. Today is my first day using it and I love it. I'm sure anyone who tries it will like it, too.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Fediverse will live on as long as two people want to share content. Users ebb like waves on the shore, and the sea level is rising.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think Lemmy will ever get the mainstream attention that reddit has to get big celebrity AMAs, but that may be a good thing, if it stays a genuine place like it is currently, people will come.

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[–] sovietafro@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If lemmy can get the search algorithm to work well, it'll be good for a decent while I think... I hope for the sake of the internet everything needs to have some form of competition, and if Lemmy truly becomes the new reddit, hopefully we all learn what they did wrong and can make it better so that we as a collective have the best website/forum/memebase that's humanly possible

[–] sirnak@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the entry barrier is still higher than reddit. So I doubt we'll see reddit users migrate by the millions because not everyone believes in free and open platforms like most of us do. But I'm excited to see what happens on Saturday when 3rd party apps shut down.

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[–] FewerWheels@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I’m having fun here and it’s scratching my online discussion itch. I’ve barely been back to Reddit and when Apollo dies I think I will not go back at all. 16 years on Reddit and almost 300K karma.

[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know about you but I'm here to stay. Also, you need to define "die", since lemmy existed long before reddit drama and will be here after their downfall even if users leave it'll continue to exist.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When Reddit forces "new Reddit" is when the real migration will occur. Reddit is dying more and more every day.

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[–] Ipodjockey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Either way I'm done with reddit.

[–] anthimatter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I like it. It's not reddit and I like that about it most. I think it will stay and grow. I think we know what we don't want now and Lemmy could just be it.

[–] ellesper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Lemmy has been around for quite a while, well before any of the recent issues. The userbase will probably die back once people get bored and go back to Reddit but some of us will still be here

[–] CannaVet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While everyone wants to constantly cry about it not being Reddit - the fact that people are flocking here hand over fist over the more direct 1 for 1 Reddit clones shows that people do understand that we need to go back to a more decentralized web. Even if this doesn't hit critical Reddit size mass, there's enough of us to keep each other company ❤️

[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 3 points 1 year ago

It existed for years before reddit had its issue.

On the other side of the fediverse that's more like Twitter, Elon Musk pissed a bunch of people off and we've seen a few waves of new users. How it has worked is there's an inrush of people, some people go "Wait a minute, this isn't my old platform! I don't like it!" and go back, some people stick around.

Once people start to realize how friggin' cool the fediverse as a whole is, I think a bunch of people stay. Especially realizing that it takes all power away from corporate overlords and gives a lot of power to people who run their own instances.

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It will last. I plan to stay here. I hope everyone else does too. Even if Reddit totally went completely back to how it was, I deleted my account because I don't like their attitude. I also find the conversation better here. And it's all open source, which is always my preference.

Same with Twitter, I still use it to follow F1 drivers but that's it. 99% of my socials is done on Mastodon now as there are more people there who share my interests and it's open source.

[–] Doodoocaca@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I hope they're going to find a way to make the whole federation thing less messy, otherwise I don't think Lemmy is going to be as big as Reddit ever was.

Also they have to solve the front page, where new topics are loading in from the TOP pushing everything down. Really annoying.

[–] degrix@hqueue.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I have high hopes for Lemmy sticking around. The explosion in users around all the Reddit drama will likely have some of them stick around, which will be a net positive. It may not be good for “doom scrolling” any time soon, but it’s really nice to see some lively conversations in communities that are just starting to really blossom.

[–] hendrik@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think people will vent and quite a decent percentage will return to reddit eventually. Like it happened with twitter since Elon did his thing. But lemmy will stay. It has been here before all the people migrated from reddit and the fediverse in general will keep having a right to exist. And it will.

[–] rexxiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

AFAIK, Mastodon actually did gain a sizeable amount of users that actually stayed, even though the number of users has dropped since the peak.

I personally think something like Lemmy works better than Mastodon, since content is more important here than the users, which I think makes it more easy to have a self-sustaining community.

[–] HorseFD@lemmy.buzz 3 points 1 year ago

I think it will grow some more when apps stop working on July 1, especially lemmy.world.

After that, we’ll see how erratic and Musk-esque the reddit leadership becomes.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Aslong as I can shit post and talk about video game development I don't care where I am

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm here to stay, and Reddit was my only social media before. But was on that site so many years and it did get shitter over time. Lemmy isn't overrun yet, it's nice.

[–] Anitabath097@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Lemmy is really the only solution because it is becoming as indepth as reddit is/was. What sucks is it will still be like a splinternet situation, having to spread all of our solutions across the internet.

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[–] Cratermaker@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

I think it's here to stay, and it makes me hopeful that we can get a somewhat mainstream version of the Internet as originally envisioned. The corpo hellscape we have right now is garbage.

[–] skyhy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’ll certainly be staying. I like it here so far!

[–] pannacotta__@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I think that the branding of the "fediverse" + difficulty of use will make it unlikely to surpass reddit or any other alternatives. It will almost certainly still be around for years to come, but I doubt it'll be much more than niche, despite me hoping for the contrary.

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