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I hope this gets posted in all the leftist boards. People need to understand Biden is a continuation of the United States' wishy-washy policies on Palestinians whereas Trump is pedal to the floor full acceleration towards genocide. Biden has shown he can at least be pressured into taking minor steps in the right direction. Being able to claim moral purity at the expense of a genocided Palestine will ring pretty hollow.

If its a primary then fuck Biden, but if it's the General Election then the blue name on the ballot is who gets the check.

I am convinced a good chunk of the "genocide Joe" crew are agents provocateurs.

There is no one to vote for to help the Palestinians.

The only hope for Gaza is for Biden to change course and use his significant leverage to convince Bibi to end the blockade.

If the status quo of famine is allowed to continue, there will be no Gazans left to bomb when Trump is sworn in on Jan 2025.

When your highly nuanced and extremely educated political stance is obliterated by an extremely obvious fact that you forgot to consider because you got lost in the sauce of [current hot conversation topic] for [I'm a Leftist!(TM)] identifying individuals.

Not voting for Biden in the primaries is perfectly fine.

A week ago, the difference between the two would have been that Trump would enable Israel in every way, while Biden would enable Israel in every way, but staffers would leak stories about how much Biden didn't like Netanyahu from time to time. Now, Biden has started sending aid to Gaza while Harris is calling for a ceasefire, and this is entirely because 100K voters in Michigan voted uncommitted. When done properly, threatening to withhold your vote can be an effective way to make your voice heard.

Given that Trump is running in the Republican primary, I'm unsure how this would effect anyone voting uncommitted in a Democratic primary?

Remember Trump isn't on the democratic ballot. You can't vote against him until November. Your only choice in the primaries is to vote for Biden or vote that you are here for the other progressive and democratic choices down ballot but Biden has to earn that commitment by doing something against his own personal desire to be a Zionist and instead help starving children get food.

Uncommitted doesn't mean I'm never going to vote for Biden. It just means he has to earn it through action.

It's not much, but at least Biden is malleable on this. He can be persuaded to make the attempt to try to slow the Israelis down, maybe even stop arms shipments to Israel altogether (or at least add conditions). If Trump comes in, he'd probably go in the complete opposite direction out of spite for liberals and would try to help the Israeli genocide even harder. It's not a great choice, but the choice of least harm in this case is still Biden.

It's at least in part Russian propaganda. They don't want people to vote for Trump, they do want democratic voters to not vote at all, which will help Trump get elected.

Look at the people pushing the 'genocide Joe' thing. Invariably they're anti-NATO and make excuses for Iran, Syria and Russia. Not that they're doing it deliberately, but plenty seem to have bought the propaganda and are acting like useful idiots by spreading it.

I'm really torn on this one. On the one hand, Republicans ALWAYS take the exact opposite stance of Democrats so they can set up the argument as "Democrats bad" but on the other hand Trump is such a massive pile of shit that he would totally be for "bombing dark skinned people" just because.

I think here he is thinking of "finish" in the sense of "finishing off", not in the sense of "finishing up with". He is not wishing for Israel to "solve" the issue, he is calling for them to kill all Palestinians.

At least in my reading.