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[–] Kiryu@lemmy.world 192 points 9 months ago (48 children)

I hope this gets posted in all the leftist boards. People need to understand Biden is a continuation of the United States' wishy-washy policies on Palestinians whereas Trump is pedal to the floor full acceleration towards genocide. Biden has shown he can at least be pressured into taking minor steps in the right direction. Being able to claim moral purity at the expense of a genocided Palestine will ring pretty hollow.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 67 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Looking forward to what the Republicans cosplaying as leftists use instead of "genocide Joe" now that Donald is calling for a final solution.

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It will most likely continue to get used completely unironically along with cheering on the bombs.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Pick one:

  • Geriatric Joe, the president too senile to make up his mind on which side to support.

  • Gray-area Joe, the weak president that refuses to take a stance on foreign affairs.

  • Bystander Biden, the president that did nothing to end the Israel-Palestine war.

And so forth. They'll always find some other stupid thing to blame him for.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago

I kinda like Bystander Biden tbh

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

It's an election year, they're just trying to get their favorite orange fash in office. Horseshoe theory is a bitch.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social -3 points 9 months ago

Its not republicans, its russian shills/bots... ok wait... yeah, guess ur right.

And for the life of me, his correct name that ive been pushing since 2019, is Status Quo Joe. It was an insult then, cant believe its a vague defense now.

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[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Plus the fact that Biden is definitively anti Ukrainian genocide, and Trump would not only pull US support of Ukraine, he would actively try to discourage NATO

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

I mean if we start talking about all the horrible things that will happen under a Trump presidency, we'll never stop.

Until the men with guns put black bags over our heads and shove us into vans in the middle of the night.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The "ppl" pushing the narrative ur complaining about arent on Ukraines side, nor or they on the side of NATO. Theyre busy convincing everyone they can that literally all western news is propaganda and the only true news will come from state sources in russia, china, etc.

The goal when engaging that side should, for the sane, anyway, always be not to convert the person ur speaking to, bc even if they arent bots/shills, their bad faith arguments turn aggressive incredibly quickly. Instead, the goal should be to demonstrate to the onlookers the absurdness of the tankie's position, and who it benefits/who is responsible for fabricating the position in the first place.

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[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 10 points 9 months ago

I mean, Biden absolutely is wishy washy.

But he also reversed Trump's policy of saying West Bank settlement is legal, and sanctioned violent Israeli settlers.

Obviously Gaza's really bad, but what's happened and happening in the West Bank is also arguably ethnic cleansing. Chasing Palestinians off their land. Trump's a fan.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

United States’ wishy-washy policies on Palestinians

Wishy-washy policies is my favorite way to say "apartheid ethnostate"

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