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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/12367209

“Welcome to the end of democracy!” Posobiec declared. “We’re here to overthrow it completely. We didn’t get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here,” he said, holding his fist in the air. “That’s right, because all glory is not to government, all glory to God.”

Steve Bannon, former White House adviser, is heard in the background exclaiming, “All right! Amen!”

All Republicans are perfectly happy with the idea of having a (Christo-)fascist dictatorship in power in the U.S. . All that they care about is that the dictatorship rewards them with money and power. I know Republicans like this, people you might think were just ordinary folks, and they're masters of telling themselves stories to justify their violence and thievery and masters at not seeing anything that might cause cognitive dissonance, to the extent that they're capable of that at all.

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[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 116 points 8 months ago (78 children)

This country needs to address the “god” issue. It’s infuriating. None of the supernatural shit stupid people believe in is real. We can’t let fiction run the show.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Believe whatever you like, the world is scary and if it helps someone make it through the world then whatever. You do you.

But omfg stay the fuck out of politics with it. Your beliefs are not inherently morality you arrogant twats.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 72 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Honestly

That’s right, because all glory is not to government, all glory to God.

is probably the part of his speech that has me most angry. Fucking Christofascists.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 25 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Christofascists is such a stupid term. Not because it's inaccurate but because I can't think of anything further from Christ than a fascist.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago

If Christians followed the teachings of Jesus they'd be socialists. But we live in backwards land, so there's nothing closer to a fascist than an evangelical Christian.

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[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Also the most insincere and cynical line in any speech he's ever given.

Of course, the people he aimed it at don't really believe it either or they'd maybe read the new testament even just a little.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 64 points 8 months ago

These guys: "Were not going to stop until we have theocratic fascism."

Democrats: "Well maybe we should try and meet them half way."

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How is this is okay that the entire right wing of our government is platforming this? Wouldn't stating this make you an enemy of the United States?

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago

It sure does!

[–] whoelectroplateuntil@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone forgets that in the decades before the Civil War everyone saw it coming and the most unionists could bring themselves to do was look for compromises the South didn't want until there was actual shooting and entire blocs of states leaving the Union. They're so terrified of fighting white supremacist revanchism they'd rather negotiate with it until we're back in the middle of another Civil War.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Jan 6 was our Beer Hall Putsch. The Nazis didn't get it on their first try, either.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah thy seem to be moving towards the Reichstag Fire phase now.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So let's recap the narrative:

  1. Joe Biden stole the election, so we had to storm the capital! 1776 part 2!
  2. It wasn't Trump supporters that did that, it was antifaaaaaa
  3. Trump went too far we're done with him
  4. After consulting the polling numbers, I now think Trump did nothing wrong
  5. The crowd was infiltrated by the FBI, the deep state did this
  6. While Trump was the greatest President ever, maybe he's just too divisive so maybe we should have someone else
  7. I've always supported Trump (please don't primary me!)
  8. Trump Forever!
  9. Pardons for everyone that was involved in Jan 6, because it was the FBI that made them do it!
  10. Jan. 6 was good and correct and we'll do it again, but this time we'll get it right! Because it's what Jesus wants us to do!
[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago

Yes. They think they should succeed because they're better than you. Their words don't mean anything specific, it's like a general grunting meaning "me group good, you group bad".

There are no conservative "policies" anymore. They just want to win, and barely care how. Specific things they say are just justifications for their actions.

Notice the abortion debate. They didn't really want to overturn Roe V. Wade, they just wanted to "win". That's why the pro-life people aren't unified or energized since then. They all have random unexamined "beliefs" that don't match. Literally every state is different and all of their policies cause a ton of backlash

Conservatives like Trump because they think they can win with him, and their other candidates are losers. That's what they care about: winning. Vote and they won't.

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[–] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

And we didn't do our jobs, which is throwing Trump et al in prison to rot.

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[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can you imagine the impromptu party we would throw across the country if Trump were to die??

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[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Do these people not realize that the first thing a new regime usually does is put any person who would be a threat against a wall and executes them? Are they convinced this will be different or that they won't be that person? My history education may have been lacking, but that was very clear.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago

Judges literally found this to be Sedition so I'm GLAD they're letting this man and others who by definition are Terrorists Against the United States of America walk FREE! The TRUE Criminals are BLACK CHILDREN in the PARK!

[–] Gigate@sopuli.xyz 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If Republicans end democracy, Americans will have deserved it. That's what they get for electing Trump the first time and for letting their democracy whither out of apathy and ignorance.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, because the US is a perfect democracy where everyone has the opportunity to easily vote for someone compatible with their values no matter their location and socio-economic situation unburdened by the undue influence of capital interests and foreign meddling.

Your victim blaming of the American electorate reveals you to be the ignorant one and/or spreading disinformation.

[–] Spot@startrek.website 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What about those of us that tried but get met with "It's all rigged anyway, doesn't matter if you vote, or who for"? Like, we are all behind these nutjobs?? Should we be as bad as them and go for extermination of our opposition?

[–] Zitronensaft@feddit.de 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When the opposition is trying to end democracy so it can have free rein to do whatever it likes, sometimes you have to. This isn’t a polite disagreement about convoluted economic theories, they want to eliminate large segments of our population and their supporters are already violent. At some point they are going to stop busing foreigners to different cities and start gunning them down. They likely aren’t going to be too gentle with LGBTQ populations when they work to eliminate them. They are already controlling what kind of medical care women have access to and they will probably find more ways to restrict women’s lives to promote their ideas of Christian morality. Women are already being told they have to be at death’s door to have their miscarriages treated, this situation is currently at the point of being a life and death issue for many people when the christofascists have barely started taking control.

[–] Spot@startrek.website 12 points 8 months ago

And if I just whip a gun out and shoot everyone who espouses this shit, it won't take very long for me to be shot or jailed myself. And, now it is proof to them that the other side IS out to get them and their fairy in the sky. Changes nothing for the better in the political hellscape but, does ruin my families lives. I do not want violence to be the answer. But, if it has to be, unless there is a tight movement against these holy dingbats, it's just a useless sacrifice to jump and go ballistic on them. As much shit as I've seen on here with extreme left saying the only answer is violence back, I have not seen anyone working towards that in the real world. What, everyone is waiting for someone else to get started? Or, we really are not has homicidal as they are and prefer to logically come to a conclusion?

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[–] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That awkward moment when you read that the Apostles of the early church set up an anarchist Communist collective pretty much first thing. (Acts 2:41-47, Acts 4:32-37)

[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Who is "we"? Was that clown actually there? Or does he prefer to sit back and agitate the mentally ill.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Was that clown actually there?

A big part of what makes this such a joke. Right in the middle of the riot, a bunch of these online freaks and losers were screaming "It's Antifa! False flag! Fake News!"

They're scorpions. They'll take you for a ride and stab you in the middle of the river. It's just their nature.

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