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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 85 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Say what you will about people who play Minesweeper but it's a fucking rush when you end up in a situation like this.

You have no choice but to take a deep breath and just pick one.

There's no real consequences to losing but it sure as hell feels like it's life and death.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

Minesweeper is a good game. I don't like it personally, but I understand why it's fun!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Whenever I got to this situation I get it over immediately ... no sense in completing the rest of the board if I only get to have a 50/50 chance on one play.

The biggest rush is in successfully completing two or more of these situations in one board.

[–] nadiaraven@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I wait until the very end because even if I lose I still feel like I did my best

[–] exterstellar@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wait, what do they say about people who play minesweeper?

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago

Same thing they say about people who grow oonions 😉

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago

There are competitive minesweeper boards. So yes, nerds.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but screw the corner spots. I always click all four corners and like three other random spots before I get into a game.

[–] rattking@lemmy.ml 47 points 9 months ago

Ah my old friend the 50/50/90. Where I get this 50/50 choice wrong 90% of the time...

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

If it makes you feel any better, it doesn't matter which one you pick, it'll be wrong either way.

[–] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes, it do be like that

Some of the better minesweeper clients have a "Prevent guessing" mode. Otherwise you can accept the 50-50

[–] MrJ199414@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could you provide me with one of them? I love minesweeper. Would play it religiously, but my frustration at having to play the guessing game. It only made it worse that my win to lose ratio was not based on my own failures but on chance. Also doesn't matter what it's for Windows, Linux, or Android.

[–] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My fave, since I play on Android, is Antimine (you can find it in f-droid)

Has a mode where each win, increases the mines by 1, for that sweet sweet sense of pointless progression

[–] Dashi@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Another vote for Antimine. It fills my minesweeper fix

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you like minesweeper but hate these random picks, I really recommend the Hexcells series. They're fun puzzle games that can be solved purely with logic. Kind of a cross between minesweeper and sudoku.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Or you can just turn the "no guess" mode on like a regular human.

[–] GoosLife@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Also this isn't a 50/50 chance to lose. You can win by placing all the flags without clearing all safe squares. So you're guaranteed to win here by just flagging one, then the other if the first didn't do the trick.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm not sure that is a normal win condition. Most places describe a win as being when all safe fields are cleared, not if the flags are placed correctly or at all.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the existence of no guess mode (something that I don't think existed the last time I played stock minesweeper) would prevent people from wanting to try a fun game in a similar vein.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's a competitive scene for Minesweeper, and they don't use the basic Windows version anymore. Too many issues like this.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh I see. Does it look similar to the picture above? I'm used to the earlier version.

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I'll also give a good recommendation to Simon Tanthem's [Puzzles](Simon Tatham's Puzzles (40 single-player logic games) https://f-droid.org/packages/name.boyle.chris.sgtpuzzles/). Dozens of different types of puzzles!

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When you ask her what's the matter and she says "Take a fucking guess!"

Do not, my brothers, take a guess.

[–] Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago

Hahaha, sexist jokes never get old

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Extreme dork doing an ackshually alertThis is not a case of "Schrödingers cat" because which field is the bomb and which is empty is already determined. The information is present in the memory of the program prior to the observation. Schrödingers cat is a paradox about a quantum superposition where two states exist simultaneously but are collapsed into a definite one by the act of observation. The cats fate is tied to the states of this quantum and therefore prior to observation the cat is both alive and dead, since both states exist simultaneously. It is only after observation that the definite state is determined.

[–] Halvdan@sopuli.xyz 20 points 9 months ago

No, you are wrong. The bomb is always where you click. Source: playing the game.

[–] xionzui@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But the state of the cat is also already determined in a real experiment because it is linked to the outside through air and the walls of the box via vibrations and temperature. Probably even through photons coming off the cat hitting the box. I don’t know if there’s any way to fully disentangle it from the experimenter. This theoretical cat superposition only exists as a thought experiment

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Right, it's meant to extrapolate the idea of two states existing simultaneously from the very abstract mathematical formulas used to express it into something more comprehensible to show the absurdity of the idea.

[–] elrik@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The game could be programmed in such a way that the state isn't determined ahead of time.

Or you, the player, the computer and the game state could all be in the infinitely branching, never collapsing wave function of the many-world hypothesis where every outcome exists.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You're wrong. Quantum isn't how the world is, but how the mathematical model is. The superposition is "we don't know yet because we haven't looked". The truth is present in reality just like minesweeper's information is present in memory.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Is schrodinger's bomb a good joke here? The bomb is not simultaneously on both squares until measured, it is only on one. It doesn't change or err "spin"

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

That's the joke. It's a 50/50 choice, yet somehow (it feels like) you get it wrong 100% of the time. So the mine is in superposition being both present and not present under a tile. When you click the tile, you collapse the wave from and the mine appears in the tile you clicked.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago

Unless you assume it's an evil version of the game

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

WHY? WHY, GOD, WHY?

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wish I understood Minesweeper better. If anyone feels inclined to explain this situation with how the rules work, id greatly appreciate it.

[–] Kyrrrr@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I got you.

Each number corresponds to the amount of adjacent bombs. The game randomly assigns bombs on a grid and it's the players who need to uncover everything except for the bombs. In this situation you can logic your way to knowing the three flagged squares are bombs. The square marked 4 has one more bomb next to it but there isn't enough information to know which of the remaining squares is the bomb. There are no extra lives in minesweeper. This 50/50 chance could lose the game

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

That makes a lotore sense, thanks!

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 3 points 9 months ago

Just fence off those two squares forever, and we'll never talk about it again.

[–] Tiuku@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

That's your own fault for not starting from the upper left corner

[–] Cover_czar@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

I've played minesweeper for a long time without knowing it's rule

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 9 months ago

I choose the corner. They're almost always in the corner.