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I disagree with the anti-AI bandwagon.

I am indifferent to moldy memes.

I'm in favor of the anti AI rule but against the anti moldy posts rule.

Also, could you remove that image from the post, I almost reported the post for "unflagged NSFW" because of it.

Edit: Reported it after an hour for the "unflagged NSFW" maybe that will get their attention on removing the image from the post because there's literally no reason for it to be there.

Totally in favor in banning AI content.

Sometimes moldy content is funny, often times it just doesn't land. Part of my concern with a moldy ban is that it seems a bit vaguely defined as is.

I don't like the idea of increasing enforcement against moldy posts, just because I'm not super plugged in to things and I don't always know if something is moldy when I post it. Over enforcement of those kind of subjective rules tends to make it difficult for newbies to post.

Completely on board with a no AI art rule though. Fuck AI.

What if there were like a "moldy Monday" thing instead of an outright ban? I agree with others that they're fun ironically.

Absolutely in favor of banning AI generated content though.

I'm indifferent to outdated and AI content.

Personally I don't think it's worth adding more to the rules than needed, especially when there are already people confused about what counts and what doesn't.

Not sure about the first change, but I absolutely support the second one. Fuck AI "art"!

I'm in favor of "Moldy Mondays" as some people have mentioned.

And I support banning AI images, but not when it's like a Twitter screenshot that says something about the image.

Moldy Mondays as another has mentioned is my vote. Ban ai posts though

Ah yes, blanket banning things using logic riddled with faulty generalization and facts proven by assertion. Totally not a bad idea! Totally!

I've Chuck Tingle posted in the past, so I was concerned that this was going to be an anti-Tingle policy, but fortunately it seems like it's about other things

I am painfully unaware if a post might be moldy because I don’t social media much and I like stupid things, so let me know if something I post is moldy and I’ll machete it.

Edit oh and these rules are reasonable I’d say

I feel like both rules suffer from the same problem of spectrum. We can all point to a bad moldy/ai post and point to a good moldy/ai post. The issue is going to be those ones in the grey space between. It’s like the threshold test for obscenity.

"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that." -Justice Potter Stewart

I agree ai generation can be exploitative, but I don’t believe it’s only exploitative. I’m sure there are fine artists out there who can use it responsibly to make genuine art. I think it’s like the Unity game engine. There are plenty of games pumped out that are just trash trying to make quick money, but there’s also gems being made by people with passion.

Most of my contributions are moldy memes so obviously I don't agree with this rule. This would impact the already little effort I put into my posts. And I know effort isn't something we put into 196 but that's my observation. I'm willing to revisit this later.

I support banning AI memes because those require less than zero effort already.

I'm against banning moldy posting, I agree with banning AI

As someone who accidently posted AI generated crap before here without realising it was AI generated:

I'm all for the ban

Maybe instead of banning mouldy memes, there could be restrictions for when they can be posted. Mouldy Monday or something.

I’m in favor of both.

Moldy posting can be fun in sarcastic contexts, but I’m not opposed to a full ban since lots of moldy posts makes the sub overall moldy, too.

Gen ai is plagiarism and discourages creativity.

I am in favor of both of these changes. I always feel lowkey like ive been tricked when i realize im looking at AI art, and the moldy posts just feel like mud to slog through sometimes.

Moldyposts were fun ironically, but i'm fine moving past them. I'm also on board with giving toaster generated posts the boot. Also, this comment counts as my post before i leave, see you all next sticky

I don't think this sub should have any more rules.

Ai images can be very funny. And who cares about moldy images? Just downvote.

don't really care either way about the ai thing but deffo ban moldy posts. we already have !funny@lemmy.world or !memes@lemmy.world for that kinda stuff

I'm curious what the discussions regarding what is or isn't considered moldy is going to look like.

I'm fine with banning both of these.

this is me voicing my dissent against the moldy posts rule, including restricting them to mondays. unless presented with a very clear set of examples that we can all (or majority) agree on, i think there’s no real utility to the rule and it just makes me afraid to post an image that i find genuinely funny.

on a level of pure aesthetics, it also just has a gross feel and i don’t want to log in on mondays to the word ‘moldy’ all over my feed ☹️

@moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone please reconsider this rule or provide more information on the kind of content you intend on removing. i believe this choice to be contra to the spirit of 196.

good choice banning AI tho, thanks for that. 👍

Eh, yah, think those sound like good rules but I wouldn’t worry about enforcing them to hard unless there’s someone flaunting them repeatedly.

What do you mean by 'increased enforcement of the moldy posting rule'? I thought we only had one rule? /srs

Put a chick in it and make her gay

water is sick and gross and chocolate milk is better

Here here!

Also is your lawyer accepting new clients?

I agree to both rule changes. Thanks for modding!!! And Thanks everyone in m/196 for keeping me laughing!

I think AI isnt exploitative by nature. The companies that own it of course are. AI is better as a technology if you are anti-copyright, as copyright almost universally protects profits of publishers and the owning class rather than creative laborers. However, AI also rarely makes interesting images or posts. Its kinda shit.

My take is I'm play with banning AI, but if someone in our community had the skills to use it to make quality posts I would be very open to it.

AI: ban it. Keep an eye open for quality AI posts though. Moldy: Ban it.

NGL the thing that will improve the quality of c/196 is getting me to follow the rule and encouraging original posts rather than sharing content. What makes a community great is understanding those who are in it.

These are very good rules imo, especially the AI. I do like the idea of a Moldy Monday or something though, or being kinda lenient about allowing some on, just because they can be funny in an ironic way