Good for them. Life is too short to enable abusers.
Time to recast and move on. Kang is a comic book space wizard. We can suspend our disbelief that much further. Maybe choose a much older actor and let the age difference be part of the explanation.
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Kang is already a multidimensional being. Loki established that multidimensional beings can look like pretty much anything (even alligators). Recasting Kang is the easiest thing to do in cannon. "Turns out, those Kangs aren't the most common it's actually the new Kang"
But in their amazing ant man movie they all look exactly the same.
They just have to George Lucas that mid-credits scene with all the Kangs. It was pretty dumb anyway with all of them screaming hysterically. Now they have good cause to redo it 😏
Just replay that scene and pull back out of a screen in the TVA, where Mobius looks disturbed. O.B. says, "That many of one person in one place isn't good for anybody! They're up to no good, I can tell just by looking at them."
B-15, her jaw set firm, pushes a big red button that says PRUNE, and says, "Good riddance."
The entire arena dissolves, and a moment later Alioth consumes it all in one great gulp.
Mobius sighs, and says, "Nobody tell Victor about this."
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I agree it has to be the easiest character ever to swap out an actor on.
It turns out, that all of those Kang's don't happen... Because Loki. Anyway here's a bunch more Kangs because time is infinite and this is fiction not science.
Have him make some cheeky remark like, "were you expecting somebody else?" And I legitimately do not care who they cast as long as he has charisma and can be convincing as a cold hearted monster that is eleventy-seven times smarter than just about anyone around him except for Dr Doom.
I've said it a few times, but I feel like they could have Dr. Doom come in to kill Kang pretty easily. It'd set up a new big bad, introduce the Fox Verse, and even set him up as the leader of any potential Battleworld in the future.
Kang even before the allegations hasn't been received all that well. A soft-reset with Doom might make people excited again. Imo all mystique of the character was already ruined in the Multiverse of Madness post-credits. A FoxVerse Vs MCU battle movie would touch on Endgame levels of hype.
He who Remains was fantastic, so fun to watch. Kang in Ant-Man was shit but so was all of that movie.
He was well received but he's a cunt so bye.
One thing I didn't like too well about the whole Kang thing is He Who Remains said that he discovered multiversal travel in the 32nd century and that resulted in the war. This made it seem like traveling the Multiverse was a near impossibility until he mastered it in the far future.
Then as Phase 4 continued, and turns out it's something kinda easy which became the plot for a few movies.
I think you have to view it as one timeline.
The timeline reached the 32nd century where the tech was found. Causing a basically soft reset for the timeline where going back in time technically happens after the 32nd century discovery. If the timeline could be drawn that would be where it goes cattywampus
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I think he was pretty well considered up until Quantumania.
Yeah quantumania killed all hype for kane for me. How can they expect him to be a multiversal threat but he gets beat by ants!? That film needed to be a bit of a bad ending. Everyone gets out so good there. But kang did not lose the fight, they just escaped. That is how it should've went down to big him up further.
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There is president for recasting in the MCU already, they swapped out Hulk and War Wachine without even a line of dialogue to address it.
without even a line of dialogue to address it.
"Look, it's me. I'm here. Deal with it. Let's move on" - Iron Man 2, introducing a new Rhodey.
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She-Hulk acknowledges it. "I was a different person back then." (She-Hulk smirks into camera)
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Isn’t the whole threat of Kang the fact that there’s an infinite number of him? Like, explaining the recasting Kang in the store seems like the easiest job ever.
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It's gonna be a pain for the studio, but I'm glad they made the right call quickly here, instead of trying to just ignore it away like DC and Ezra Miller.
I don't know how DC and WB got away with that. It hurts their reputation in long term.
The movie was already filmed and deep in post-production, and Ezra hadn't been convicted. As simple as that.
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They really had to. They quickly fired Gunn after media reported on old, edgy jokes. You have to fire someone after a guilty assault verdict if that's your threshold.
Just do what they did to War Machine. We can suspend our disbelief its fine.
Mostly joking, but I wouldn't exactly be mad if they brought Terrence Howard in as the new Kang to really hang a lampshade on it.
Except he's just a problematic a person as Majors
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Start lifting, John Boyega.
Didn’t he piss off Disney after the new Star Wars trilogy? I seem to remember him making some comments that pissed some execs off.
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He Who Remains In Prison
Kang the Convicted
Kang the canceled
They should just pull a switcheroo and show that Oroborous was actually Kang all along and that Majors was just a pawn or perhaps a rival he was disguising himself from.
While this is a fun idea, I really don't see him as a legit villain. The actor is just so goddamn charming.
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Dude could’ve printed money riding the Disney/MCU wave. Instead he chose violence.
Bye.
At least they waited for the verdict to fire him this time cough Johnny Depp cough cough.
As much as people like to defend Depp, he's a piece of shit who deserves to lose his status. He has great pr that has made everyone around here ignore his mountains of past abusive behavior and being a creep.
Dude is 60, dating 20 year olds and bitching that they're immature. Him and his ex were mutually abusive psychos, she just happened to be worse, but Johnny Depp is a garbage person
It's easier for Disney to fire a problematic star who is past his prime and doesnt pull audiences anymore than to fire a problematic star who is considered up and coming, and supposed to frontline a big franchise
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Imagine throwing away this opportunity because you couldn't keep your hands to yourself. Goodbye, fucking idiot.
Marvel should recast with a Lady Kang, full send into the "timeline variant" option.
"Put a chick in it, and make her gay" - Cartman-Kennedy
That would be legit as fuck.
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Thankfully Loki 2 put them in a good position to just nip the kang storyline in the bud. At least for now. Maybe wait a good decade or two then potentially bring back the threat of Kang with a new actor (or more).
Personally hope they just recast and say fuck him tbh. Not many villains are on Kang's level, and we've already seen from covid what happens when Marvel has to respond to a massive shift in plans.
I'm hoping though, that loki 2 were signs of them having got a plan B though. At least if those scenes towards the end were reshoots. If they were in the original script, then it's just a lucky coincidence it looks that way.
Hopefully with a potential recast they can get away with the abysmal portrayal in ant man and have this new version not linked to that one at all.
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That's true. The TVA is killing all the Kangs so maybe only the variants that don't look like Timely/HWR survive.
Or just say, no the TVA handled all the Kangs, here is Dr Doom.
I wonder if Mayors had something in his contract that only he can play Kang, as some people suspect from not already recasting him.
He can be removed based on the "morality clause" they put in these contracts. Basically "if you make us look bad, you're gone". All entertainers have them because they're public figures.
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Those texts were classic abuser manipulation. He also sounds arrogant and unhinged calling himself a great man in them.
He threatened to kill himself to the woman he was abusing the manipulate her. I wonder if he has the balls to follow through now that it's over for him.
Maybe now Avengers 4 will just have Thanos return from the multiverse "Somehow Thanos returned......"
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They just need to recast him. No one will complain.
Such a shame. I thought he was doing such a great job as Kang. Fuck anyone that lays hands on their loved ones
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