I've singlehandedly caused hp to lose thousands of dollars. People trust my advice and I've lost all trust in hp so I tell people not to waste their money on it.
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Don't buy a smart printer. Buy a dumb printer, then plug it into a raspberry pi.
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Buy brother laser. It’s more expensive, but it’s worth it long term. They last a real long time and the cartridges last bananas and they don’t care about “official” ink
Straight up when I bought my black and white brother laser printer I got an extra cartridge with it because I didn't expect it to last very long
By the time I finally had to swap it out I couldn't find the extra cartridge I bought with it because it had been so long
Needless to say I'm 3 years and 500+ pages into the second cartridge and happy to have this clunky little printer
Unfortunately someone snuck someone from HP into Brother's executive chain. They're starting the fuckery now too.
I guess the only right thing to do is to buy used Brother laser printers until they all break... Such warhorses.
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I thought the latest update to the new brother color laser added cartridge DRM?
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Laser printers are especially handy if you rarely ever need to print anything, because they don't dry up and get clogged.
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This should straight up be illegal
No joke, like what the fuck is this? I bought the thing, and you can just disable it ???
That's the issue, people won't stop buying these things and then complain - selling a scam calling it a feature should be illegal and all these practices should be called out as much as possible.
HP is probably the worst big tech device company. Their products are shit, break quickly, are overpriced and econ students love them.
I bought an HP Envy, one of these convertible laptop thingies, when I didn't know any better. The hinge broke about a month after the warranty expired. Repair costs (at a local repair shop, but still) were like 200€ because apparently I had to buy a whole new top cover for the damn repair to work
Anyways, I'm gonna buy a Framework laptop next because fuck going through that again
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there's not a single thing radical about wanting these fuckers out of our homes and out of our lives. Kill em all as far as I'm concerned.
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Why nobody has made an open source ink jet printer design like reprap, I will never understand. The printer industry seems primed for disruption with all their bullshit and their half century old technology.
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This is a real thing? I haven't owned a printer in years. Why would they have his debit info in the first place?
yes it's a real thing, it's part of the HP ink program, they disable printers when your payment method rejects or you cancel the sub
So you're basically just renting the printer then. Wow.
Nono, you buy the printer and AFTERWARDS they sell you a subscription on top.
That way they get paid twise, much better...
Buy-to-rent. Nice
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I have an HP printer now, Epson before that. Both are dogshit. When the HP eventually kills itself, as they tend to do, should I buy a Brother? I heard a lot of good stuff about it but have 0 experience with it.
I've had a brother printer going on 10 years and it's never let me down. I've changed toner three times over that time and each cart has never cost me more than 20 ish quid. No DRM carts, no jamming, no subscriptions just a printer that does its job. Even when it's running low, it doesn't prevent me printing, it'll let me know it's low then keep on printing until you can't see the letters any more.
I swear, if it weren't for the fact that I've also had good experiences with Brother, I'd be thinking they have an insanely good astroturfing department. Every time there's a thread about printers, there are dozens of comments saying how good they are.
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10 years ? Mine is around 20 years old. I slapped a Raspberry Pi on it to have it network-enabled and it still works like a champ. Never ever will I buy another brand.
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I have a Brother DCP L2541DW. Bought it last year and has been working since with no hiccups nor drum change.
Regardless of brand, don't buy "at home" printers. Those are straight up scams. Just buy office printers.
I have a Brother HL-2365DW. It's a home printer, or maybe at most a home-office printer. I've had it nearly a decade with only two toner replacements. Being laser and networked solve the two biggest problems I've had with inkjet printers in the past, and those two categories are the main things I would strongly recommend to people when choosing a printer.
edit: I initially wrote "it's not a home printer" (emphasis added here for demonstrative purposes). This was the exact opposite of what I intended to say.
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Yeah, Brother have been real good so far. Their shit is rock fucking solid reliable, and you can use third party ink with no issues.
I have a epson EcoTank printer and I really really love it.
The Ink is cheap and very good. I will never go back to cartriges.
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I wish there was a cheap simple laser engraver that could just “burn” black the surface of generic bulk printer paper. As in an inkless monochrome printer.
A bit like How to Cut, Score, and Engrave Paper With a Laser but without the need to use dedicated laser cutter.
With the explosion of interest in 3D printing, machining and laser cutters, I'm just eager to get hold of a printer like that and forever give up on liquid ink and toners of all sorts.
This does exist and you can see it in almost every supermarket in the World: the ticket printer. And the tickets end up fading
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They'll be the first company with their backs against the wall when the revolution comes
I'm pretty sure that's Nestle
The revolution will not be printed in color.
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HP reached its pinnacle in 1993 with the 4L laser printer. They were practically indestructible. I bought one and it took 15 years of heavy use to kill it.
my dot matrix never had this problem
That would be a radicalization moment for the repair movement. Weird to subscribe for a damn printer
I've been radicalized against HP for a decade now. I bought an HP printer with the guarantee of a sizeable rebate. Of course, the rebate never showed up and every time I called about it, the customer service person would read their script, "Oh we sent that out just a few days ago should be arriving soon." Uh huh. Here it is 15 years later, no rebate check and I'm sure they never intended to send one at all. I'm not a fan of HP at all.
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Fuck HP. They provided the tech Israel uses to control and surveil Palestinians.
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HP execs seething every time I use my old ass HP printer that takes refills and doesn't complain. The ink never dries out either. This thing got no internet access, they can't disable anything without literally breaking down first my door and then the printer itself. I hope they use sleep over this.
Shoutout to the real OGs doing those refills, they fill them more than new ones and sell them for half the price.
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