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Iran has told Israel through the UN that it will intervene if the country’s operations against Hamas in Gaza continue, a report has claimed.

Israel has warned 1.1 million people living in the north of the enclave to evacuate ahead of an expected ground operation in Gaza with the IDF planning to strike the territory from land, sea and air.

Iran’s involvement could be through a militant group from Syria or by backing Hezbollah to join the conflict, diplomatic sources told Axios.

Meanwhile, Iran’s foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said that Israel’s operations could cause fighting to expand to other areas of the Middle East which would cause Israel to suffer “a huge earthquake”, reported the Associated Press.

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 114 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel is 110% not going to heed this warning in the absolute slightest.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They may tighten down some screws in preparation.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago

USA already issued a response after the statement from Iran, wanting to avoid a larger war.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I thought I was too late to invest in war companies, but perhaps that was premature.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Doesn't that seem unethical, even if it might be lucrative?

[–] chili1553@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

If it's good enough for elected US representatives, it's good enough for me.

[–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

The true answer is unequivocally yes. Fuck everyone who says otherwise trying to justify this ghoulish shit.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would argue the whole system is unethical. Capitalism has never bothered itself with ethics. That said, it's arguably even more unethical.

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[–] darki@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So you expect that at some point in the future of mankind, there will be a period with no active conflict and weapons snuggling? 😂 my sweet child...

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think snuggling weapons is weird but one of the best uses for them

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[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

There's always a lot of weapons snuggling going on in the US.

Elsewhere... It varies, but typically, not so much.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So you expect that at some point in the future of mankind, there will be a period with no active conflict and weapons snuggling?

As soon as we can learn to share resources and land.

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[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

From a Sci-Fi show about dyson spheres and habitats: "Where man goes, war will follow." Made me sad, because I guess it's true.

[–] xGIHOST@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Real question: why is the us so involved with israel?
Is it just a "sunk cost fallacy" thing or is it any more than that?

It feels weird sinking so much money for someone else's wars over so many decades.. like trillions over wars and apart from ukraine recently its been always and only israel demanding the aid

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Real question: why is the us so involved with israel?

they're meant to be a main ally in the middle east for the US

most of the other countries are either allied with Russia/China/Iran/etc or too unstable

there's also massive israel lobbying in the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States

[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

tbh kinda the US's only ally. Turkey kinda is, and Saudi Arabia really just sells us oil.

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[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US is a global, industrial empire. To maintain that position, we need to make sure threats to our influence are kept to a minimum, and we need to provide security to the global trade system that we and our allies benefit from. Israel is aligned with the West culturally and ideologically, and so it's a natural partner, and given its location in an oil-rich region, right next to the Suez Canal, and a stone's throw from or bordering several of our major global adversaries' proxies, it's a natural and necessary ally.

Anything else, like the Evangelicals' bizarre obsession, is purely coincidence or post-facto.

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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Half of evangelicals support Israel because they believe it is important for fulfilling end-times prophecy

According to prophecy, Israel must exist to bring about rapture, when Jesus's followers will ascend to heaven and everyone else will be killed. Since they are not followers of Christ all Israelis would be killed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/14/half-of-evangelicals-support-israel-because-they-believe-it-is-important-for-fulfilling-end-times-prophecy/

[–] Fungah@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They probably think they're s clever. "Silly Jews, you think you've got such a good deal with all this free money but wait until the magic sky man comes and murders every one of you in cold blood because that's what somebody who claims to love people does, murders billions of them, and you're first! Ha ha. Silly magic sky man, doesn't even know about all the loopholes."

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I read this in Homer Simpson's voice.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Corruption and money laundering through the military complex. I mean who needs free medical care anyways, right? That's for European commies.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Evangelical caucus believes that the Jews trying to build the third temple will make the rapture happen.

Dumbfucks can't even read their own book right.

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Almost all that money ends up back in the United States.

[–] extant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have a lot of enemies out that way and so do they, so we became allies and support them because it's in our best interest. We keep supporting them because apparently they've held up whatever end of the bargain we request and for the US money is easy.

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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And this can easily lead to more wars in the Middle East. Once more, innocent will die, and soldiers will not return home because stupid bloodlusting leaders of Israel, Iran, and Hamas just can't get enough blood.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Proxy war between the US and Iran

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think if Iran steps in with feet on the ground, the US probably will too, unfortunately.

Fucking Nicky Hailey is foaming at the mouth for it to happen.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Iran won't go officially. They'll just pay Hezbollah to go in.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Close, but look above Iran and you'll see even more strings.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

I assume they mean Russian and/or China.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As if Iran's fingers weren't in the fucking pot from the start of this shit show. Bitch we've got the receipts that you all but handed Hamas the plans for their little murder rape and pillaging expedition.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For real. This is so blatantly a play by Iran to drive a wedge between Israel and the Islamic nations it has recently been normalizing relations with - UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, Morocco... They were in talks with Saudi Arabia, and that would have been a bridge too far.

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[–] superguy@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/13/world/middleeast/hamas-iran-israel-attack.html

Not sure if that's the type of source parent was referencing. My understanding of the consensus among certain groups is that the point of this conflict, from Iran's perspective, is to make it unappealing for Saudi Arabia to normalize relations with Israel


which may be exactly what they're getting, e.g.: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/14/saudi-arabia-puts-israel-deal-on-ice-amid-war-engages-with-iran-report

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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't this the plot to Arma 3? Does Iran have the East wind Device?!

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Israel has warned 1.1 million people living in the north of the enclave to evacuate ahead of an expected ground operation in Gaza with the IDF planning to strike the territory from land, sea and air.

Iran’s involvement could be through a militant group from Syria or by backing Hezbollah to join the conflict, diplomatic sources told Axios.

Mr Amirabdollahian said that he would be contacting UN officials in the region as “there is still an opportunity to work on an initiative (to end the war) but it might be too late tomorrow.”

More than 2,000 people have been killed in Hamas-controlled Gaza since Israel launched retaliatory airstrikes, the Palestinian health ministry said on Saturday.

Following the Hamas attacks, Israel announced a “complete siege” on the enclave and tens of thousands have now left their homes in Gaza to get away from the combat zone.

And on Saturday Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu told troops in southern Israel that “The next stage is coming”


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