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Here are the articles that Junge Welt linked in that post, they’re written in German:

Banderas weiße Weste

Keine eigenen Erkenntnisse

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 96 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Literal SS divisions and Bandera's band of sadistic mass murderers were not right wing extremists according to the German government, nor are the Azov thugs with swastika tattoos, and anyone who dares to challenge this official narrative is a left wing extremist, Putinist, and an enemy of freedom and democracy. This is not an exaggeration, you can look this up: all the actual (non-socdem) left wing parties in Germany are on government watch lists and are considered a threat against the constitutional order. But they dare to claim that the DDR was a totalitarian police state. The BRD is just a continuation of Nazi Germany.

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they dare to claim that the DDR was a totalitarian police state.

Meanwhile, we are now under infinitely more invasive and omnipresent surveilance than anything the Stasi ever did.

[–] urshanabi@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, and as well I think it's relevant to consider what was historically considered invasive and omnipresent at that point in history is not necessarily the same as now.

I guess I'm thinking, like, are current governments similarly using the full extent of surveillance? And is it something knowable? As well, how's the investment and expansion of that surveillance been done then and now?

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

West Germany previously too had much more expensive and expansive oppression aparatus than East but somehow East is called "totalitarian".

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They put people back in concentration camps ffs, and put nazis back in charge

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Honecker was in the same prison in the 90s as the Nazis put him in in the 1930s.

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also they kept up the nazi euthanasia of the disabled in the American controlled portions of west germany for quite some time

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[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago

Germany: world renowned for effectively dealing with nazi problems

Russia: evil tankie society

jokerfied nato-cool

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the ukraine war was the unite the right moment for global fascism, said it before saying it again

[–] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 1 year ago

fascism was already set before the ukraine war, but i get your point, one particular form of fascism is being normalized via anti-russia propaganda

[–] beautiful_boater@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish I loved anything as much as Western liberals love whitewashing and apologizing for fascists.

[–] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago

relationship goals

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 68 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Ukraine War is the modern WW3 version of the Spanish Civil War.

All the majors get to fight each other discretely, test out all their new toys in the field, and support fascism abroad without risking anything domestically.

[–] Buchenstr@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 year ago

Not to mention the more left-wing side of voters in Ukraine are overwhelmingly Donetsk and Lugansk voters. More than 25% in these states voted for the communist party of ukraine in the last election, and guess who voted for the nationalists? Except this time it won't be like spain, the fascists won't win.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago

I knew we were repeating the past by the book.

[–] Leninismydad@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago

That's why this is super familiar

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Love to see we've arrived at "Oh just because he was in the Waffen-SS he's a nazi now"

[–] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's crazy caus a few years from there the consensus went from "the dark truth about nazism is that a lot of people supported it" to "not all handpicked elite third reich armed men were nazis"

[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago

Hitler wasn't a Nazi, just an artist and a veteran who became a center right populist. The Left will call anyone a Nazi these days...

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[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

You ever have one of those days where you recognize the Axis reforming and have this all-encompassing existential dread wash over you when you realize you won't be able to escape in time and definitely aren't armed enough

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I’ve been going through this and everyday the dread builds.

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[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Send it to a German fellow I know, he called it ragebait and dismissed the org as "originating from DDR as a youth org brainwashing children for totalitarian regime".

Welp.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The German left is probably as broken and coopted as in the US. Most didn't even care when a court essentially declared anti-capitalism of any kind unconstitutional by pointing to the constitutions enshrining of property rights.

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[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 1 year ago
[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's been one hell of a week

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yup west came from neonazi bootlicking to full frontal clean SS myth.

[–] FlightSimEnjoyer@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BREAKING NEWS:

Germany says that a literal Waffen-SS brigade wasn't nazi.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of every country on this planet, GERMANY?! They should’ve just sat there and ate their food…

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Nazis never lost, they just got slapped on the wrists and were told to be more discreet and tactful about their imperial interests.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. The nazis could never have won WW2.
  2. They did.
[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A few weeks ago, someone posted about feeling like we were at the top of a roller coaster, about to tip down, and I think this is the tip down.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know how the coaster slows down before it falls full speed? That’s where I feel like we’re at.

[–] WashedAnus@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides And a dark wind blows

The government is corrupt And we're on so many drugs With the radio on and the curtains drawn

We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine And the machine is bleeding to death

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[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Getting really concerned about how the fourth reich is gonna manifest....and gonna be real with you guys, I didn't think Germany was gonna go for round 3 (but this time if they do, the Western powers have decided to back this horse this time around).

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NATO's been the fourth Reich.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Nazi Arming & Training Organization

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[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

The Waffen-SS has yet to reach the level of antisemitism of Roger Waters, according to Germany.

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[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago

🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Get hyped for World War 2 II

first as tragedy then as farce

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Electric boogaloo

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[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I love how everyone here is treating this as proof of Germany going full Nazi and staring the fourth Reich instead of just the lib government being as full of shit as the libs in Canada and elsewhere.

Praising Nazis is mainstream nowadays wholesome

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago

What's the difference? Either way Nazis are being glorified and their image whitewashed.

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

The Nazis in west Germany dreamed of being able to be this mask off.

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