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Satanists to volunteer in Florida schools in protest at DeSantis religious bill
(www.theguardian.com)
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Fucking Guardian... either falling for stupid propaganda or using scare words. Shameful either way.
The Satanic Temple's Seven Fundamental Tenets:
https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets
What sort of "dark messengers" preach compassion and justice?
I think that was meant to be tongue in cheek. The article also says:
definitely not a very good article opener then
Well this just proves that I’m right when I say their name is a double edged sword. On one hand, it’s inflammatory and mocking which creates a unique angle to engage politics with. Stirs up evangelicals while also being entirely harmless, making them look foolish.
But on the other hand, seen here and elsewhere, it creates confusion that limits the organization to just antagonism at times. I wish there were more non-antagonistic humanist groups for this exact reason.
There's the church of the flying spaghetti monster
It was, but it was a poor time to joke when it's such a common misconception.
It's a good thing it's a common misconception. The misconception is the point.
It is for fundamentalists, but sane people should know that the Satanic Temple is a secular organization.
How dare you? They're religious, and enjoy every freedom given to religions by conservative politicians.
It's religion detached from spirituality, just like some claim to be spiritual without religion.
If that was the intent, they shouldn't have intended it that way. Because people won't take it that way.
Christian missionaries.
To be fair, they call themselves The Satanic Temple. If they didn't want to court the "dark messenger" notoriety in the first place, they would just call themselves something serious like The Humanist Society.
Q: What do you call people who believe in the existence of Satan?
A: Christians.
You bring up a good a point, and it is meant to be provocative on purpose. It really helps remind Christian people of the importance of separation of religion and state when they see Satanic statues next to the ten commandments after they pass legislature requiring display of religious symbols and what not.
It's one of the only effective ways to get these people to stop trying to push their religion on everyone else. Those types don't typically listen to reason or compromise with others, for that matter.
I've seen religious people treat the word Humanist as if it was a dirty word right alongside atheist and then conflating atheism and humanism with Satanism. "The best trick Satan ever pulled was making you believe he isn't real."
I suspect The Satanic Temple figured that no matter what they called themselves it'd be demonized so they beat the Christians to it.
Guessing you didn't read the article, since they elaborated more about the Satanic temple further down?
I read it. Burying the lede doesn't excuse the beginning.
Dude, it's tongue in cheek. It's meant to be funny. Even if you don't find it so, it very obviously wasn't meant to be taken seriously
You assume the general populace can recognize intent in writing, and differentiate between things like comedy, satire, and factual statements when they aren't explicitly declared in context.
The fact there is currently so much successful propaganda spread worldwide through traditional media that we're seeing a large resurgence of extreme nationalism, xenophobia, and Nazism again, along with a current very public genocide with a ton of public support, proves that to be factually incorrect. The average person is fucking stupid.
Are we then supposed to lower the standard of all writing to the lowest common denominator, then? I get your point, but I'm not sure the solution is to move to grade school levels of communication.
For some things, yeah, probably. If you're trying to inform people, you need to adjust your communication to something they'll understand (and you can stomach).
You don't need to change your novel to appeal to everyone.
A lot of marketing and journalism already targets a sixth grade level because many people don't read well.
It's a British news outlet. Just because you're reading it in the U.S. doesn't mean it was written with an American sense of humor in mind.
Clearly no one but the British can possibly be familiar with British humor.
I think it’s funny to call every Christian leader a pedophile rapist because it tends to be true. But for some reason the guardian doesn’t start every article about Christians that way…
Lots of people will take it seriously and they will not read to the end where it is explained. In fact, what many of them will see is that part in a little preview blurb and get worked up about it.
Well, let them? The people who would take it seriously and get worked up about it are the ones who are in support of this stupid law in the first place.
So, let’s just strengthen that outrage muscle then, huh?
What are they gonna do that they're not already trying to do? Revolt? Subvert the rule of law? Shoot up some schools?
I’ve spent the past decade thinking “surely they won’t get worse than this” and they always do
... fair point.
Literally more of the last one, yes.
I've heard this lie before.
I bet you’re going to tell me you read it somewhere
yes, FS wrote a whiny post about how he didn't know coupons existed on the internet, and how that it is everyone else's fault.
He then proceeded to misread everyone's comments, while following up with claims that no-one said X or Y, when they did. It was an absolute joke of a post.
So no, when FS claims he read something, I've got that (x) doubt meme on standby.
Sorry, I was just attempting to make a joke, nothing more than that!
“Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand” (Daniel 12:10).