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[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There was a post the other day about a "powermod" from reddit who was doing the same thing with lemmy communities - snatching up dozens of names and squatting on them. Folks are rightly asking for restrictions on the number of communities any one person can mod, along with other safeguards to prevent power-tripping.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem was that mod was doing it on lemmy.world, which was the default instance for a lot of users.

It isn't as valuable to do here as someone can create a new sub on a different instance, but it was still annoying.

[–] michaelrose@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can moderators of a sub ban people from the instance or is there just an overlap between moderators of that sub and moderators of the instance?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 year ago

My understanding is that sub moderators are technically different positions from instance admins, but I would expect some collaboration.

However, I don't think there is a way to ban a person from an instance yet. I'm not sure, though.

[–] Woland@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is there any incentive other than showing who's boss on the internet? I struggle to see how the amount of time and energy involved in moderating just one community, let alone multiple ones, are worth it just to get a power high. It seems exhausting.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

It's an influence game like anything else online now that the Internet is commoditized. Corporations and political influence campaigns can and do pay for control of high-traffic accounts and communities to nudge discussions to benefit whatever they're selling.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this what leads to “you’ve commented in so we’re gonna ban you from ”?

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've never encountered that myself. What communities are you commenting in that you're getting banned elsewhere for it?

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Happened a couple of times on Reddit. For example, banned from r/Stepparents for participation in r/AmITheDevil. Just randomly messaged and told.

[–] BeHappy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I know a lot of the parenting subs would ban you if you commented in r/childfree. Albeit, childfree is a toxic sub and a lot of the people there would subscribe to parenting subs just to troll them.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Guitar and guitarcirclejerk lol

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Mods on the Star Trek communities on StarTrek.world will delete (and ban you) for even the slightest negative opinion about the show Star Trek Discovery. Even if you say that you dislike the show, or that you think the writing is sub-par, or anything slightly minor and inoffensive, poof! Your comment is gone, and you’re banned.

It’s not a rule in the sidebar, which is most frustrating, too. All you get is “not constructive”, even though there are plenty of complaints about other things, some pretty abrasive. But one unadoring word about Discovery, and you and your comment vanish without warning.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s because that sub was basically moved from Reddit to the fediverse.

The nice thing about the fediverse is you can start a separate uncensored star trek sub and they can’t do anything about it (unlike how they got alternatives shut down on Reddit).

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Check it: !startrek@lemmy.ml

it’s not a new community, but I just joined the mod team and I’ve updated the community guidelines in this Community Update post. It’s more permissive and, I think, much more reasonable and transparent. Coe on over, and help revitalize the community!

Live long and prosper! 🖖

[–] alokir@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's why I unsubbed from r/startrek on Reddit. I wasn't banned but I've seen many threads deleted that had genuine criticism of Discovery.

I didn't stick around long enough to see if they behaved the same way with Picard, but my guess is yes.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The stupid thing is that the criticism is entirely valid. The fact that Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks are so good, basically proves that it isn't a problem with new trek, just their stupid "gritty" interpretation of it.

Although in fairness Picard gets better when it just becomes more TNG. But you have this weird slog to get through before you get there, where for some reason Jean-Luc Picard is hanging out in some universe that's got nothing to do with Star Trek and feels like Mass Effect the TV show or something with all its melodrama.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good news!

I’ve just been added t the mod team over at !startrek@lemmy.ml and have posted a Community Update with new community guidelines that outline a more open policy on discussions that includes the ability to express criticism without fear of your comments vanishing or being capriciously banned without warning.

However, there are (as outlined in the post) some guidelines about how those discussions should go. We don’t want unhinged rants about how you hate X that just devolve into toxic threads. If you’re going to be critical, make it constructive criticism that fosters civil discussion, and keep it relevant to the post you’re commenting on. Irrelevant tangents and a lot of toxicity will be curtailed. But, otherwise, we feel it would be disingenuous and dishonest to outright ban all dissenting opinions and the discussion of when Trek sometimes fails to hit its mark.

Rules are in the sidebar, and if you have any questions or comments, you can comment on the Community Update post, reply to this comment, or contact me!

Live long and prosper! 🖖

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, now that is good news! It looks like the community has been quiet/mostly inactive for a while, but has 3x the subscriber count as that other community! I’ve subscribed, and I’ll see what I can do about helping to make it more active!

woohoo!

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Your service honors us! 🖖

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

If that is a Meta commentary, then that is clever.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago

There's barely moderation, much less overreach.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Some instances censor incoming and outgoing swear words, I was surprised to learn.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience, they censor slurs of all varieties but you can still say "fuck" "shit" and "piss" as much as you wish.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless you’re quoting, I have no problems with slurs being removed. If you wanna be like that, X will love you.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, even quoting is suspect. Unless the quote is to prove someone else said it, it doesn't seem to me to benefit anything at all.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t want to rule it out totally in case context matters in some case….

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is absolutely removed.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

Removed that removed.

What the f**k?

[–] al177@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago
[–] CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The guy who runs my instance is a total fucking clownshow

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How are you liking running your own instance?

The peace of mind is amazing. It cost me next to nothing with a digital ocean droplet. Highly recommend

[–] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aren't you listening? He's not liking it! His users are pissed!

[–] trimmerfrost@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why don't you choose another

My therapist calls that disassociation disorder and wanted to put me on pills to quiet the voices.

Oh you mean another instance.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

Nonexistent.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago