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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Corporation: rubs hands for tax cuts

Corporation: forced to close or pay minimum wage???????

QUICK CORPOS ANTI LEOPARD MASKS INITATE!!!

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago

They are trying so hard to bring back slavery

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 95 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Please, please, PLEASE raid workplaces. Fining employers has always been the solution, but neither party wants to actually go after them. Do it. Crash the economy, cause mass confusion and fear, destroy the employers. Let's see how that shakes out. I don't know any finer way to cause a massive backfire.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They might raid workplaces, but I doubt the outcome will be to fine employers. Those are the job creators!

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If slaughter houses, chicken/egg farming, fruit picking, packaging, etc. comes screeching to a halt due to these raids then those employers stand to lose a ton of money as the food goes bad while they scramble to try to convince Joe MAGA to come work for them for a fraction of minimum wage.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 21 hours ago
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

fraction of minimum wage

I do wonder if they might turn to using prison labor - and finding lots of reasons to throw more "undesirables" into the prison system to get that labor. Might be a lot of "war on drugs" stuff comes roaring back, esp. on something like cannabis...because it's ripe for highly selective enforcement.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lol. They are going to have millions of "immigrants" concentrated in camps... why would they have an issue finding labor?

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t surprise me at all, but even that would be a limited & unreliable resource. It would also require getting inmates to the farms, warehouses, etc. and keeping tabs on them while they work. That would be a logistical nightmare…

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe, but plenty of other tyrannies delighted in holding this kind of thing over their subjugated populations. Being efficient was not necessarily a goal when extracting labor from people in gulags and concentration camps.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Hope you don't need carpet installed or cleaned. The flooring industry is 99% foreign ran.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they do everything they plan on doing in a short time frame, they're going to be lynched by their own supporters.

And I'm ready for it.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is no way he could do half of what was planned in the next couple years and still retain Congress after the midterms.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're assuming there will be midterms.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If they stop elections there won't even be a US anymore. So many of the states would fracture off. You would even see some red states not want to associate with one another.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Russia has elections... How's that been working for them?

This is what people voted for.

Yes, you're correct. There isn't a US anymore, because the fascists won.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. It's the employers that are illegally employing desperate illegals, paying them under the table so they both avoid taxes and pay the workers less than minimum wage.

And the employers that do this are always conservatives and trump supporters. They lose their cheap labor, and get caught breaking the law? I'd love to see it... But I'm not holding my breath.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

No my friend, the illegals are paying taxes. At least around here they are. AND they have an "employment" firm that skims $2/hr. straight off the top. And those employees are "illegal".

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's always so much talk during the interim. Last time it took them 3 months to find the doorknobs of the oval office after inauguration day. This will be another high quality production.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

They do have Project 2025 as a guideline this time though. So we'll see how that works out, I guess. It's going to be all the true believers who probably don't have any actual management skills, but they'll at least be determined.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"please please please open the concentration camps."

Stop rooting for the worst possible outcomes. Wish for them to fuck up, get blocked and bumble their way into failure at implementing this. Wish for failure not "haha funnies" your way into ethnic cleansing.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

May they accidentally raid a Mob-owned business.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bubby it don't matter who owns it. We should have protections for undocumented immigrants so they can't be taken advantage of to such a degree, not wish that some bad guy has to pay a fine while his undocumented employees get arrested and deported.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I should clarify: i hope they try to go for people who shoot back.

I'd much rather they just leave people the fuck alone.

[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let me finish that sentence for you

...at places and areas that don't bow down to Trump.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

See the thing is, the people who are behind the plans are through and through white nationalists. They are true believers, they want all of them gone and don't care about economic consequences or what wealth cares about.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

Surely hell be deporting any illegal staff working at mar-a-lago and replace them with w2 employees.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wonder what giants like Tyson think about this plan?

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

They'll call up the raids before paychecks are supposed to be sent out. Oops guess that was free labor, oh well. We will hire another load of illegal immigrants for next week and maybe not get to pay them too.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably giddy that they'll be able to become even more of a monopoly.

[–] joker125@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Bingo. This is the plot.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What are the odds that these raids don’t prioritize all the red agricultural areas that rely on migrants for work?

Those areas are littered with Trump signs, but this policy would nuke their workforces.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Even in the blue states, the agricultural areas are pretty red.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

It's so easy to solve the problem. Massively punish the employers. But of course that's not the point, and that certainly will never be the answer.

Actually I'm not convinced it is a problem, but if you think it is, that's the obvious solution that will never happen.

[–] tipicaldik@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

they're giving the bigger illegal employers plenty of heads-up so they can muster up their big bribe payments and swear their fealty...

[–] makuus@pawb.social 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Let’s end the hypocrisy of blaming illegal immigrants every societal ill—while benefitting from their cheap and compliant labor—and staying silent about the complicity of employers’ role in the whole process. Raid workplaces. Deport illegal immigrants if that makes you feel better. But, absolutely imprison those business owners for aiding and abetting.

They contributed like $90b to Medicare and SS in 2022, but the right doesn't talk about that part.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump will be great for the economy!

Trump: crashes economy

surprised pikachu face

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's Biden and the Democrats fault obviously, they set it up to fail and make trump look bad.

Yeah, pretty much.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

They better be ready to pay for the downtime...

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn straight! Maybe they'll actually start paying a fair wage! And boo hoo to anyone who refuses to do their own lawncare. It is not hard.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

For a lot of small to medium companies they'll probably just go out of business.

The chamber of commerce meetings are going to be a lot smaller.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Now now. This is a playground for bribery. You know it will be about friends and payoffs.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

If you can't pay a fair wage, you don't deserve to be in business.