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[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 69 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

I will now cut back on all social media. Lemmy included as I get a depression from what's happening in the US. What is painfully obvious is that we Europeans must stop fucking around and federate so that we have a fucking chance wedged in between despots and idiots.

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[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (25 children)

Don't forget the fake communists bragging that they won't support genocide and that's why they're not voting.

Hey, socialism angels: do you drive a car? Do you emit carbon dioxide that is projected to cause 1 billion deaths, mainly in poorer countries, by 2050? If so, why do you support genocide? You refuse to support genocide one day every 4 years, but actively participate the other 1460?

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[–] python@programming.dev 29 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Genuine question, but why is Trump even allowed to run? I vaguely know that there are some restrictions on who can become President (you have to be a certain age and be born in the USA iirc), how can it be that "Hasn't been convicted for any crimes recently" isn't a requirement?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 41 points 1 day ago (7 children)

because political dissidents who are in jail for trying to overthrow a dictatorship should also be able to run. it's one of those unfortunate situations where this would be a good thing to have under an authoritarian government...

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

As an American:

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 26 points 1 day ago

For the third time in a row

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (5 children)

His IQ is currently equal to his amount of felonies

Edit: The fact that this comment has exactly 37 up votes makes it even funnier

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[–] citrusface@lemmy.world 174 points 2 days ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Funny - it's the same for roughly 50% of Americans too - which is horrifying.

👁️ 👁️

Edit: sorry it was more than 50% of Americans. Fuck everyone. Goodbye.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Even as someone who clashes with Lemmy.world users every post, I highly doubt Kamala doesn't have the vast majority of American support over Trump. It's that people don't vote

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I think that's certainly part of it. Imo, it's a few things more also, not that you said it wasn't anything else too:

Included in what you said, voter suppression. People being bombarded into apathy, has really kicked up a notch. Its identifying who's susceptible and spamming them like mad with things the data you have on them says will work specifically.

There's a real core of people in every country thats incredibly easy to wind up with emotive narratives that have enough truthyness to override what might otherwise be sound critical judgment skills.

America's real problem is that the direct line to those people and their data is owned by a very small group of very wealthy people. On top of that, you have interference from a country that seems to some how be even better than America at foreign election interference and they're very pro trump.

That's before you get to the Democrats who, even if they were or weren't any good, have to sell their soul to the highest bidder just to come close to Republican election spending. The side who spends the most is always the side who wins and a democrat will only ever be given enough money to win if they compromise to an extent that they're, right or wrong, not different enough for a lot of Americans.

My country's greatest export is class subjugation. America's is the manufacture of consent. America was amazing at it even before social media etc. which would be a dictators dream. Now, I'm not saying the people with all the power are as bad as bad as stalin or anything like that. But, with something like that at your disposal, you wouldn't have to be.

TLDR: America is the ever evolving blueprint to how consent will be manufactured around the world.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 71 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That doesn't change anything, tbh.

Apparently these people are at least complacent enough to let Trump become president. And that is horrifying.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's that people don't vote

Yes but also no: it's mostly that many people either CAN'T vote or can but only with extreme exercise of patience and stamina.

Get rid of all the ridiculous voter suppression obstacles and you'll see a dramatic uptick in voting and a corresponding shift towards Dems winning almost every election, making the GOP unviable within a decade.

Neither major party wants that, though, since the Dem leadership counts on running on fear of Republicans so that they won't have to go further left than the owner donors are comfortable with.

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[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 106 points 1 day ago

Watching America edging fascism is my pastime in between watching my own country edging fascism.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Americans are watching this too and wondering what the fuck is wrong with our fellow Americans. This should not even be close.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

America is a fascist nation dripping in right wing propaganda.

If we elect Trump a second time, the only people who can express shock are the ones who have never seen a neighbor wave a Confederate flag, brandish a Blue Lives Punisher logo, have FOX News blasting away in the living room, or demand you laugh at their joke full of ethnic slurs.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I'm really hoping Harris wins, and we can make politics boring again. I know that if Trump wins, we'll hear about all the insanity he will put in place for the next four years.

Sure, if he loses, Trump will cry foul, but that doesn't have the same legs as it would if he wins.

I just want Trump to be some washed out TV "celebrity" and politics to be as entertaining as it always is: not very.

I'm not American and all I hear about right now is American politics. Y'all need to figure your shit out.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Trump is not the problem. Trump is the symptom. The problem is a somewhat powerful minority faction in the US actively pushing to dismantle our democracy. Project 2025 wasn't written by Trump and didn't write itself.

Harris' win is step 1. We then need to push to shore up our democracy and prevent a more cunning trump replacement.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The worst one for me is that there's some chode near me that displays a flag on his house fucking bragging that he's voting for a convicted felon.

They're proud of the fact that they're supporting a criminal, and I bet they'd be ok with him if he was an open Nazi as well (they're just fine with the same tactics and having literal Nazi flag wavers in their midst).

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Adam Conover's last video changed my view on the shock. They're not voting for him despite his bad qualities. They're voting for him because of his bad qualities. Telling them he's a Nazi and a felon and blah blah blah will reinforce their idea that he's the right guy. When people who worked in his government come out against him, the response is, "Of course they did. They're part of the swamp we're trying to drain."

Reason is dead. We're never going to convince these people that Trump is unfit for the job and a horrible human being. It's time to stop being so shocked these people exist. They always have and will continue to exist. All we can do is show up and end the man's political career.

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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Americans are also watching in horror FYI

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Watch the next Canadian election and be equally dumbfounded / terrified.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)

At least that election season won't last more than 7 weeks. Instead of this insane 2 year marathon the US has.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 day ago (7 children)

With electoral reform, we could have more then two artificially limited options. We could have competition in our elections. We could be free...

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (8 children)

But currently you aren't and the options are damage control or burning the house down...

  • A French person that was in a similar position a few monthes ago.
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[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 45 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

This is so. fucked. up. I'm not American (and thank fuck for that), but I'm actually feeling so ill and worried for y'all. I think it's time for me to block/unfollow any American accounts and news cause shit's about to get really fucking bleak.

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[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The national identity of being Canadian over the last while has been every four years wondering if the downstairs neighbors are going to decide to restart up the meth lab they keep tinkering with and bracing for the sounds of domestic violence to resume.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 35 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

America is fucked. Ukraine is fucked. The world is fucked. The only glimmer of hope is Trump drops dead before his term is out.

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[–] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's not forget the two impeachments too

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