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[–] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 156 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

about two years

How convenient.

[–] ceiphas@lemmy.world 99 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It's exactly the time, where they are legally required to fix that in the EU

[–] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 40 points 4 weeks ago

I know, that's why it always catches my eye when there's "2 years" in there somewhere.

[–] czl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

~~Warranties are now 3 years in the EU.~~

Edit: nope, just some countries.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 102 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Pathetically weak flex cable and connector. Obvious problem and design weakness that's persisted for years.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 51 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It would be a relief if that was the problem. Even if Apple won’t issue a recall, third-party cables can be made and sold for a reasonable price by places like iFixIt.

If the display itself is defective, then this is going to be real bad for a lot of people unless Apple bites the bullet.

[–] M600@lemmy.world 52 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Look at the 2016 MacBook Pro.

They had a problem with the display cable and it can’t be easily replaced since it’s soldered to the display.

You basically just need to get an entirely new display even though it’s just the cable.

Additionally, some shops will resolder the cable, but it’s not a long term solution.

Even replacing the display by Apple is not a long term solution because they replace it with another display that has a cable that’s slightly too short and will eventually break again.

So the only real solution is to buy a new computer.

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[–] r_deckard@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Happened in 2022 to a 2017 MBP belonging to someone I knew. She went out and bought a new one, and put the old one in a drawer. She brought it to me in 2023, I investigated and found the shitshow - Apple saying "nuh-uh", the ACCC (Australian consumer advocate) saying "you'd better", then Apple quoting me $1100 because the ACCC never enforced it, and me getting it fixed locally for $550. It needed a new screen, not because the screen itself was faulty, but because the failing flex cable was integrated with the screen. Screw Apple.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 48 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Apple builds obsolescence into their products on purpose.

If you'd bought a PC, a faulty screen would be easily replaceable. I had to replace my laptop screen myself several years ago, and with a $60 part and ten minutes on youtube, it was an easy repair.

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Not really anymore. They make them expensive to repair, but they also don't want you to switch to another brand, because for them a user in the ecosystem purchasing apps and subscriptions is worth way more than a frustrated user purchasing a one time display replacement. Their whole strategy now (for a few years really) is to make devices that last at minimum 5 years, because it makes the user happy that their 5yo phone still works, and that means they are likely to get another iPhone, and because as long as the user is in the ecosystem, they are making money by taking their cut of everything that happens on the device

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 20 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I still use a 2011 MacBook Pro. It’s running Linux Mint now and hasn’t been my primary laptop for a couple of years now, but it’s still a solid machine. In fact, as is the norm with Apple stuff, it lost OS support long before it stopped being a viable laptop.

Fortunately, Opencore Legacy Patcher exists…

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Let's hope Asahi linux becomes usable enough as a daily driver before the M series laptops stop getting updates

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 6 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, that’s the route I’m expecting to take. It’s why I’m dipping my toes into Linux now.

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[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That will be 450$ and you'll have to send your device in for 3 weeks. -Apple Genius

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oddly enough, the reason why I did the repair myself was that the shop quoted me $400, haha. It's nice to live in a world where you can fix your own stuff, something that Apple also does their best to prevent.

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[–] benjhm@sopuli.xyz 29 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Hmm. I'm still using a 2014 iMac, as its 27" 5k screen still very good for coding (with added memory). Sometimes develops a bunch of thin vertical lines, which come and go maybe dependent on temperature, but hasn't changed for for ten years and i can live with those. Just wish they'd continue providing security updates for it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (51 children)

27" 2015 iMac here. No problems whatsoever. I'm going to use this thing until it dies.

Edit: Gotta love the downvotes for literally just owning a Mac. Good luck breaking into the industry as a video editor without one, guys.

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I got a free 2012 iMac and updated it using OpenCore Legacy Patcher.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Wow thanks, never heard of this before. I was getting all set to buy a new Macbook so I could install the latest versions of Xcode and keep developing iOS apps. Looks like I can keep on abusing my 12yo Macbook instead.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 5 points 4 weeks ago

I have a 2014 MacBook Pro which I love more than any computer I've ever had. This is in my list of things to do. Before I was just going to install Linux on it but this seems like a better solution to keep all the apps I was using.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I keep pondering grabbing one of those on the cheap and getting one of those kits that turns it into a really nice 27” monitor.

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[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Linux runs great on Intel iMacs. Just sayin’.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

What does this have to do with "Apple Silicon"? Unless it's not screen deterioration, but something with graphic output.

[–] amorpheus@lemmy.world 45 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Might just be to indicate when it started happening. They could have written "M1" and still cause the same confusion, and I believed that's what the model is called.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

"According to an investigation by one of the affected users, the Apple iMac screen uses a flex cable that must sustain a voltage of around 50 volts when the screen is set to high or maximum brightness. This causes the connector to burn out over time, it was theorized, resulting in short circuits that cause the black lines to appear on the screen"

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh. Makes sense it's a cable. This way they can profit on spare cables and keep the reputation of reliable hardware for their fanbase.

[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 34 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This flex cable is bonded to the LCD and requires a replacement of the whole display assembly

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, so they can sell the whole matrix in addition to cable. Even better.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

A true marvel of engineering, pushing the boundries of business and technology

Tap for spoiler/s

[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] lando55@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Oh. Makes sense it's Cable. This way they can profit on spare Cables and keep the reputation of New Mutants for their fanbase.

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 27 points 4 weeks ago

It refers to the affected models, not the cause. The apple silicon iMac was a complete redesign.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Just bought myself a late 2011 17" MacBook Pro, it was listed as untested but I took the gamble... Yeah, its logic board turned out to be dead.

I bought far older ThinkPads for less money that worked perfectly.

[–] CucumberFetish@lemm.ee 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Imo untested always means dead. Especially when it is something easy to test - like a laptop

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, probably should have seen that coming to be fair. Especially since the A1297s are so prone to failure.

It's just that confirmed working ones are still so goddamn expensive and I kinda wanted to have one but not enough to drop 200€ on it

[–] CucumberFetish@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Rule of thumb when buying electronics (or anything for that matter) is buy it cheap, buy it twice.

Nervously looks at the 10€/TB refurbished drives that just arrived

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I would be extremely skeptical of buying something listed as untested. How hard is it to test if a Mac works you just turn it on if it doesn't turn on it's broken. It takes like 30 seconds.

However if you turn it on and it's broken but you don't want to sell it for parts you can always just sell it as "untested".

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[–] smokebuddy@lemmy.today 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

2011 AMD Graphics MacBook Pro all over again

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[–] wolf@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, Apple! :-) Obviously Apple doesn't have the win margins to put proper parts in their hardware...

Just yesterday I realized my Thinkpad Edge 330 is running w/o any trouble for 11 years now, cost me little above 300€, brand new back then. :-)

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Most durable modern Apple's hardwares:

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Yeah, depending on how widespread this is, it's probably worse than staingate.

I bought a 2014 MacBook Pro earlier this year, I got a good deal on it partly because it's got severe delamination issues. With dark mode, it doesn't really bother me enough to spend several hours with a bottle of Listerine to fix it yet.

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