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[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 2 points 52 minutes ago

Mylar balloons should be outlawed. They get sent free and land on power lines WAY too often. Over a thousand mylar balloons caused power outages are recorded in just Southern California alone in a typical year. The cost of repairing the damage might even exceed the revenue of mylar balloon sales.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 39 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Given its scarcity, helium should be more expensive, to the point where filling party balloons with it is decadent profligacy.

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I mean it is expensive, it's just the amount required for a balloon is insignificant and thus seems cheap.

As a diver who uses helium I can tell you it is, compared to air, so much more expensive they actually charge me for it (rather than just rolled into the cost of a dive) - to the sum of about $300 a dive - depending on depth.

[–] FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What is helium used for when diving?

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Reducing the amount of narcotic gases in your mix so you don't act like a drunk idiot when in a life threatening situation.

Those narcotic gases are nitrogen and oxygen (although there's only so little oxygen you can have....and also only so much!)

Edit: extra info: oxygen and nitrogen are narcotic at depth, nitrogen is better understood and so often we talk about nitrogen narcosis, which tends to start hitting people after about 30m, but each person reacts different and to different degrees at different deaths. I personally notice it at about 50m or so. If I was more relaxed while diving it'd probably hit me sooner.

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

and to different degrees at different deaths.

Was that supposed to say depths?

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes. Yes it was.

[–] FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Most welcome! I can talk endlessly about diving so welcome the question.

I added an edit with some more information incase you're more curious.

[–] Highstronaught@feddit.uk 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Are there other gasses that could be used. E.g some of the noble gasses like argon or neon?

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 9 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

I really wonder what power plants will do with the helium once they get fusion working. Maybe a balloon business on the side isn't such a bad idea.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 hours ago

In a perfect world stick it in a secondary reactor and make lithium. But that's obviously even further off than hydrogen fusion.

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I mean too much Helium isn’t a problem. It’s one of the few (only?) elements that will just disappear if you don’t do anything with it.

It’s light enough that it rises to the very tip top of the earth’s atmosphere and is then stripped away by solar radiation. That’s why is a depleting natural resource, not because it’s burned or used or anything, but because it just escapes.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

An MRI scanner in every home!

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[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 42 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

We should go back to filling them with hydrogen.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

When I was in school decades ago, my science teacher brought in a big balloon filled with hydrogen and lit the string on fire without telling us that it was filled with hydrogen.

I could feel the explosion in my bones. It was neat.

I’m not sure you could do that in schools today.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

What could go wrong?

I mean other than that...

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 hours ago

Oh the huge manatee!

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The alternative is to use extremely limited quantities of gas crucial for MRIs, chip making, metallurgy, and a few other high tech applications. But hey, pretty balloons.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

When I was a kid, Dave Berry had a column where he made fun of the US Strategic Helium Reserve. This taught me an important lesson: when people make fun of what seems like government waste, 75% of the time it turns out to be really important. Not always, but you should look into it more.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

^(The^ ^store^ ^was^ ^just^ ^out^ ^of^ ^helium.)^

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Only a matter of time before they can't get any because we wasted such a limited resource on vanity instead of the pursuit of science.

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Perspective my dude. An insignificant small amount is spent on vanity.

I've used more helium on a single dive than I've ever used in balloons in my entire life.

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

At least you spent yours on something scientific in nature.

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[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 21 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Would make for more exciting birthday parties.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Am I missing a joke? Airships used hydrogen gas

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Specific airships made by a specific country that had no access to helium...

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Not exclusively, hydrogen being lighter and cheaper meant it was still sometimes used when helium could have been.

[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 28 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There will absolutely still be a customer that takes a balloon from behind the sign and asks for it to be filled up in the store.

[–] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They will demand it or else poor Kayla'lin 'da Leeigh Lynn Lee's princess party will be ruined.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I think you just summoned an Elder God.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

"I̡̖̝͔̯͌̄̈́ ̧̙̮̈̈́H̥̫̭͈̖̐̆̒̂̓̾A̼͚̘̦̼͂͌̇͒̏̌͝Ṽ̡̡͙͙͌́̽Ȩ̮̝̪̞͖̍͆̋͋̄̒͝ͅ ̳̙͝R̥͕̱̠̱̈̈́͜I͎͒͌̋͗̈̑͜͝S̨͙̻͍̺̟̾Ẹ̳̖̖̼̥̊̓̆Ǹ̡̳͍̏͒͛̉̃̀,̳̅̋͑ ̡̡̠̗͈́͑̌A̡̧̛̦͛̅̎̄͒͂Ṅ̨͕͈͍͎͆̑̕D̻̑̾̔̊̉͊̚ͅ ̧̳̙̳͗̈́͊͊̓͝Ḭ̻̗̻̥̙͉̀̒̂͛̈́ ̢̡̯͖̩̻͍͛D̰͔͇͉̪̆E̛̝̻͇͚̼̤͗̊̑̀͋͜M͕̯̠͎̳͌͛͐͒̋͑Ä̹̺̥̤́̓̾̕N̝͎̓̓̆͋͐D͇̺̮̠̏͊̌͐̍̚͠.͓̼̰̈́͛̈̈͊.̺͎͖̰͔̻̇̂̉̈́̌.̢̮̣͖̳͖̜́͌ ̫̰̗͋P͔͗̑͆O̳͛͌̂̎̀Ṅ̦̣͖̭Ḭ̱̖̊̂Ė̛̠̺̭̓̉Ś̞͔͍̠̟͓̦̿̈́̆"

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 10 hours ago

The Eldritch God of over eccentric suburban moms is somehow more terrifying than anything Lovecraft came up with.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Just use hot air. Lots of that to go around.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm afraid it's already in use by politicians.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I could have sworn they were hot air generators

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

It's endlessly recycled.

[–] PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck! How am I going to refuel this fusion reactor I brought back from the future? You can't have shit these days.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

May I suggest food waste from someone's garbage can? I hear that works.

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

😏 ...Is there a Mrs. Fusion?

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

She's married to Mr. Coffee with an automatic drip

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 13 points 5 hours ago

I want a balloon full of uranium hexafluoride.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 8 points 6 hours ago

Brought to you by big hydrogen.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

why don't we just bring a shitload back from saturn or something

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Deepus@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Dont you tell me what i can do!!

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[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Good thing I finally finished voice training and no longer need Helium to pass 👍

[–] clickyello@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

nice keming on that one

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