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Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

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[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 20 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

why isn't he arrested already? I wish I had similar privileges, where I could break laws (thst don't violate human rights ofc.), make a shitload of money and travel the world freely.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 104 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If he is still able to speak and be heard, then they arent loud enough. Every single person in that room needs to be screaming to demand his immediate arrest.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good point, them leaving says I don’t want to be involved not that I want to stop the injustice.

No... It says "I won't be a part of this". It's a desperate act.

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[–] invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works 207 points 1 day ago (8 children)

He is such a fucking scumbag. Fuck him and fuck the rest of Israel.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 137 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Fuck the USA, and every country too chicken shit to oppose a criminally corrupt sociopath committing war crimes to delay his own imminent corruption trial and imprisonment.

[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Fuck the USA government, you mean. I only live here, and all I get to do is choose between the lesser of two evils every 4 years. What a nightmare.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 14 hours ago

All candidates steer clear away from condemning Israel because they know they’ll lose votes if they do. Sounds like this one is on the people.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you think you only get a choice once every four years, that's part of the problem. There's elections every single year, many of which you have more choice and more power over.

Maybe if people showed up to vote more than once every four years we'd actually see some effective change.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It's ridiculous that there's effectively only two parties, and it's ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:

Compulsory voting Ease of access for voting Preferential voting Lower bar for running, meaning every citizen has the opportunity to run

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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well yeah, obviously. If you blamed the entire population for its governments actions then every human alive is guilty.

Fuck the US government, and everyone who supports their crimes.

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[–] wolfeh@lemmy.world 133 points 1 day ago (4 children)

including scores of women and children

This always assumes that there are no civilian men. I get that men are the ones usually conscripted, but... that's always seemed weird to me.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It makes for a more defensible argument. No sane person is going to argue that a 4 year old child is an enemy combatant. But a 20 year old male? It's easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatant and so maybe the numbers are inflated. Saying 1000 people can be interpreted as 999 enemies and only 1 civilian casualty. Saying 1000 women and children is usually interpreted as 1000 innocent lives lost.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true, but super fucked that women get the innocence of children and men are assumed to be not innocent in any situation.

Life is harsh when you're a guy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Given the Israeli position on military rape, it's just a different flavor of attrocity.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatan

The age old problem of "excess males" solved by declaring open season on anyone with facial hair.

[–] Evrala@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In Gaza casualty numbers any adult man is assumed to be a combatant by Isreal.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And a child is assumed to be a future combatant.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And woman a combatant factory?

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[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Anyone past puberty actually.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Call to emotion, nothing else. Women and children "sounds" worse than "people" dying.

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[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This might matter in ten years if Netanyahu hangs.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

That sack of shit should have been arrested.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 48 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Cool. Now do something that stops him. Going for a coffee won't save lives.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

The UN is a forum for dialogue. Expecting the UN to do something other than either say stuff or help by mandate supported by countries just shows you don't understand what their purpose is.

Walking out in this case sends the message. If these countries want to do something about it they can, other countries might intervene on Israëls behalf. The UN provides a forum to discuss this kind of stuff. So countries don't end up in wars they did not want.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The ignorance of this statement makes me embarrassed for you.

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[–] Azamandriel@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Now if they would actually take action.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry, they'll pass another strongly worded resolution.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago

We've always been good at walking away, closing our ears, turning a blind eye…

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