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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 62 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

The big 3, naturally.

Babylon 5, Farscape, and Battlestar Galactica.

May the force be with you to infinity and beyond.

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

No way. It’s SG-1, Galaxy Quest, and the 9th Doctor.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

...robotech, seaquest, and firefly...

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[–] emmie@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Next generation is so good I don’t even. It’s like my first time watching Star Trek and I just wanted to see Data

I couldn’t watch it when I was younger to not get bullied but it turns out it is fun. The nerds were right

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

TNG is peak Star Trek. That's just an objective fact.

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[–] showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I’m feeling personally attacked here! I come down on the Boimler side here I think, and I’d hate to argue with Beckett but she’s wrong.

All Star Treks are awesome in their own way and there all my Favourite. I can’t and I won’t be made to pick a series.

Those Old Scientists era is where it all starts and nobody tackles those great social issues like they did.

The Animated Series is so forking batshirt crazy and fun. And they brought us my bois, the Kizinti!

The original cast movies brought Trek back from the repeats. Yes even numbers are better but five got me to ask “Why does god need a starship”

The Next Generation really kicked it in to high gear and expanded the universe.

DS9 - I wouldn’t recommend any long story format higher.

Voyager - if I didn’t love Voyager Janeway would kick my ass.

The TNG movies had some kick ass action and amazing space battles.

Enterprise really explored the beginnings and had a lot of fun filling in the niches and contradictions.

I could keep going on and on but it’s late and I’ll leave you with how I alway feel about Trek series. My favourite one is one that I’m watching right now

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Empire Strikes Back /runsaway

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[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you don’t specify it’s Enterprise of course! Who could resist that catchy theme song?

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Having met Anthony Montgomery and see him host karaoke, I feel it would be wrong to talk down on that. I never would but there are those who will.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

I unironically love the theme song sequence in that show, but I know it’s a point of contention so I figured I’d poke the hornet’s nest a bit.

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Star Trek: The Land Before Time

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Littlefoot is played by a Gorn child.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

Yeah I'm sorry, but imo "Star Trek" ended in 2001. What we have after that is a bunch of fanfic and parody. No shame if you're into that, it has genuine appeal, but it's not for me.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (6 children)

You have to specify which era, at least:

  1. Your parents’ Star Trek. Cheaply made and over the top acting. Aliens are mostly excuses to show half-naked women or use props from other shows to save money. But it has very important life lessons that everyone should learn.

  2. Your Star Trek. Lots of boring talking, but that’s the best part! Certain episodes have become increasingly problematic as the years go by and even later episodes suffer from limited budgets. But the good ones stand out as the highest points of the franchise and they will likely never be topped.

  3. The kids’ Star Trek. Over-produced, shaky cameras, lens flares, and everyone is a sex-starved alcoholic for some reason. In spite of the frequently cheap filmography, the show has never looked better, never been more accessible, and everyone is proudly represented.

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

I started Star Trek from 0 around 2 years ago.

I had to stop at number 2 of your list. (Maybe a bit later since I still watched Enterprise...) but Discovery killed the whole thing for me. I was like... how bad it can be? It's still Star Trek... well no.

Checked out a few episodes of Picard.., I dunno. That's also not necessarily the Star Trek for me. :/

(On the other hand, Seth MacFarlane's Orville was amazing)

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Highly recommend lower decks (try getting through the first few eps though, it does take a little to find its legs). I am also not a fan of Discovery and Picard. Strange New Worlds is okay, a few really strong eps (i do adore the design work though, I’m very happy with the original series era being modernized like this)

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I watched the first season of Lower Decks, and... it didn't really clicked. It's just waaaay too fast paced (and goofy) for Star Trek to me - tho the cartoon itself is good.

With Picard, I checked 2 or 3 eps of it, but honestly I'm not sure I really wanna continue. (Tho I don't want to punish my gf by skipping them since Star Trek is our daily thing, so I might watch it) and Strange New Worlds is something that awaits. I've heard good things about that one so not all hopes lost for me 😅

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Snw is personally amazing, it's an attempt to rebirth trek from scratch. It's not ds9 or the best of tng, but pike really nails it so you don't care.

Picard season 3 is solid, especially the first half, otherwise don't bother with s1 and s2.

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[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

I am not even calling discovery startrek, it is simply not. Picard is meh.

But you need to watch strange new worlds and lower decks, if you haven't - these are amazing.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

(Maybe a bit later since I still watched Enrerprise…)

No, Enterprise firmly and definitely fits into category 2. It had a weird theme song and some people didn't like how it shoehorned an extra ship named Enterprise into the list, but other than that it was Berman-era Trek, through and through.

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

yeah, you may right. I was hesitant for a second when I put Enterprise too into categ. 3. But It's still sorta in-between...

and that theme song wasn't that bad afterall :P. at least the OG one.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This misses what makes Star Trek special and what makes the Nu-Trek shows such a failure, in my opinion.

What make Star Trek what it is is that in a world filled to the brim with hopeless dystopian stories and prudent allegorical warning signs in story format, Star Trek offered a uniquely hopeful Utopian view of the future. No, things were not perfect, but it's clear that many of the trivial problems of our world as well as nearly all scarcity issues were effectively "solved."

Meanwhile, Nu-Trek seems actively and solely focused specifically on tearing down or critiquing that Utopian view. I'm not opposed to critical consideration of a property, in fact in most cases it's an excellent way to re-evaluate a property. But in the specific case of Star Trek all it really accomplishes is turning this uniquely hopeful thing of beauty into just another generic and cynical piece of mild social commentary in a field absolutely crowded with exactly that sort of content already.

I'm not precious about Star Trek, I'm not above the idea of critiquing and reevaluating it, but when doing so accomplishes only taking away what makes it unique so it becomes just another interchangeable piece of Sci-Fi in the crowd.... Well I guess I just have to ask "What was the fucking point?"

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Picard is definitely the worst for this. It's woefully generic and miserable.

On the other hand, SNW feels like it has much more of the TOS-era vibrancy, LD is pretty similar to TNG in terms of setting (plus modern humor of course)... Prodigy even takes the novel approach of seeming like generic sci-fi at first only to become probably the most similar to 90s Trek out of all the new shows, albeit in kid's show format. Still, it's really fun and is all about the hope the Federation represents.

And for that matter, while early Discovery is pretty dark, I feel like Discovery gets more hopeful. Sure, the 32nd century has kind of a "fallen utopia" thing going on, but it very quickly turns into rebuilding and by the end they're looking hopefully to the future as they're expanding their borders again. It's different from the previous eras of Trek, but it's still hopeful.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago

I've only gotten through two seasons but when I watched Picard I couldn't help but think "TNG would have wrapped this up in one or two episodes".

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I unironically also pick the one with sex too because I associate Trek heavily with sex. It’s always been horny.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Absolutely. nuTrek is supposed to be the sex starved one? Commander Riker would have something to say about that, but he’s busy on holodeck four.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I pick the one with representation.

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (6 children)

For most people in this community, TNG is your parents' star trek. It began airing in 1987, 37 years ago. TOS is your grandparents' Star Trek, at the earliest.

Your Star Trek is MAYBE voyager, but Enterprise has been around over 20 years now, and people with jobs and taxes to pay watched that as young people.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm the Enterprise crowd. I was 10 years old.

EDIT: I grew up on TNG. Saw First Contact in theaters at age of five.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

For most people

You might want to realize that you are not "most people"

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

To me I didn't watch ST growing up. I started when I was at least a teenager, maybe early 20s, around 2012 or so probably. I started with TNG though, and my favorite is DS9, which started the year I was born. I consider it my ST, even though Enterprise is probably what should be considered my contemporary. For sure, TNG would be my parent's though, if they watched it.

[–] ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

For most people in this community, TNG is your parents' star trek. It began airing in 1987, 37 years ago. TOS is your grandparents' Star Trek, at the earliest.

Amazing how you do not think too much about your own age, until you see it staring back at you in black and white!

By this community’s standards at least I can say I did Live long. The Prosper part, not so much.

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[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If someone doesn't specify, they mean TOS, clearly

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The one with the ship called Enterprise

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can't they all be my favourite? I enjoy all star trek

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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