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[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 218 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Last time I was using a windows computer I was turning it off to re image it and I didn't want to wait for it to shut down so I just held the power button since it didn't matter if it got messed up and windows popped up this message on screen that was like "Please stop holding the power button we just need a few minutes". Like what are you doing you aren't supposed to tell the user what to do, that isn't the job of a computer

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The moment my computer refuses to obey my commands sent from the physical layer, is the moment it will cease to exist on this physical plane

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Honestly that's one of the least annoying ways windows interacts with modern hardware, you should experience when it changes your efi settings and breaks pxe booting

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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

all computers should be like the one in star trek TNG, for simple feedback it just beeps and bloops in ways that are intuitive, and if it actually needs to use speech to relay detailed information it does so in a short and efficient message delivered in a clearly roboticly neutral yet pleasant voice.

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

speech to relay detailed information it does so in a short and efficient message

So the antithesis of modern capitalist mindset of cheap devices that are designed solely to advertise?

Yeah, IDK if that's ever going to happen unless we achieve Star Trek levels of societal restructuring.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you can run linux as a completely fine desktop OS right now, and there are several open source assistant projects, then there's stuff like mozilla's deep voice for recognizing voice input and you can totally train a voice synthesizing model on people who willingly donate their voices.

It's not really that far out, it just needs a handfull of people who want to see it done and have some spare time they're willing to occupy with development.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

and you can totally train a voice synthesizing model on people who willingly donate their voices.

I'll be honest: it isn't very copyleft of me, but I want literally Majel Barrett.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 106 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Ex-app developer here. We do it because reminder notifications boost our re-engagement by over 10%.

When an average user downloads an app, there's like a 70% chance they'll use it day 1, a 10% chance they'll use it day 7, and 1% chance they'll still be using it by day 30. A simple reminder notification after day 3 or 15 can drastically boost those numbers.

Why do we care about the numbers? Because Google and Apple care. They see higher numbers, assume it's a good app, and make it show up in the search results more frequently. This gives us more downloads.

If you're putting the time in to craft a quality app, you probably need money, which comes from ads and subscriptions, which is funneled by the number of downloads. If you don't like that as a user, stick to FDroid.

[–] KellysNokia@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So then the answer is to uninstall apps that give you reminders - to negate the correlation that nagging users leads to positive outcomes.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 18 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the reminder to delete everything I'm not using right now lol

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[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 181 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I fucking hate notifications. I either disable them entirely or delete the app. No in betweens. Remind me to use your app?...deleted.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I too take any unwanted notification as a potential threat: the only answer is immediate annihilation of said app. Basically the dark forest hypothesis but it’s my phone.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Based
My phone my rules

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[–] cpw@lemmy.ca 78 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If an app gives me more than a couple of unwanted notifications that I can't easily disable, it's uninstalled. Fuck that shit.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

Nah man, you definitely want a deal on a Lime scooter rental even though you're 500 miles from the nearest one.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

The first time an app does it I delete it. If I really need it that bad I can just redownload it when I actually need it.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I believe it was SAP Concur that my last employer used for filing expenses. Every few months it popped up a notification asking me whether or not I "loved it." I always answered "no," because fucking why would I? Then it wanted to know why not. I think that's inappropriate behavior in a professional setting, and I told it so. Regardless, it kept asking the same thing, so I asked if it wanted me to speak to HR.

Nothing ever came of it.

TLDR got sexually harassed by a corpo app.

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[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 70 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The CD-Keys website changes the tab title to "We miss you" when the tab loses focus. Pisses me off enough to close it every time.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just like when a news website pops up a request to send notifications. Um fuck no? I'm not sitting around waiting for new propaganda to drop such that I want to know immediately when something comes out.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The answer: tech bros dictating that they need more “engagement” e.g. they need to collect more data so they can either sell said data or get acquired. I guarantee you very few mobile developers want to send you a notification of any sort, much less “why haven’t you used the app.”

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[–] infinull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I received a notification to use Door Dash yesterday, to order food... while I was cooking soup.

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[–] ODGreen@slrpnk.net 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There's no way I'd use a grocery app. Paper and pen works well enough.

Now, if my phone had a slide-out physical keyboard like it did back in fucking 2007, I'd consider it. As it is, typing on phones is pain.

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[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I force stop the app. I either do it manually or run the hibernator app.

Uber eats wants me to order something?? Congrats you just got yourself and all your friends shut off.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tafayor.hibernator

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This is why we need better resource/battery management services with Magisk or Xposed integration. On my phone the Rom has one integrated already, lets you set apps to be prevented from running in the background completely, preventing tracking, annoying notifications, and battery usage. Though unfortunately these types of tools aren't available on all roms, and they really need root or system access to be effective.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Any man who must say "I am the king" is no true king.

[–] the_of_and_a_to@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That is part of modern app design to increase user interaction which increases profit. Usually it’s just annoying and invasive to the user.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

By default I disable notifications for all my apps unless it is something I need notifications from. And even there I still disable notification types that I don't care about in the settings.

Can't other phones do this?

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