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Steam Deck

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[–] amenotef@lemmy.world 156 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I'm not sure if it's the meme but here (Europe) there is a huge difference in price between the basic 512GB OLED SD and the basic PS5 pro option.

569€ vs 800€.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 74 points 1 month ago (1 children)

... and you have to pay for PS Plus repetitively to play games with friends.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

Jokes on you I don't have any friends

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 124 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (23 children)

If you think $700 is bad, it's £700 in the UK... which is $913. 🤢

Also:

  • median household income, UK (2022): £32,400 ($42,265)

  • median household income, USA (2022): $74,580

A PS5 Pro is 26% of the typical UK household monthly income.

A PS5 Pro is 11% of the typical US household monthly income.

The US pricing is bad. The UK pricing is absolutely insane.

The OLED Deck starts at £479. Still a lot but not as egregious. The LCD Deck is currently £262 ($344), which is pretty great.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 31 points 1 month ago

If you think 26% is bad, in Russia it's going to be priced at around ₽80-100k(~$883, VAT included), but the median monthly salary is ₽43.500 - $480... That's well over 100% median household income given that over 38% families only have a single parent. And I'm pretty sure that's not even the worst out there, think like Argentina has an extortionate import tax or something?

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If you think $700 is bad

I don't:

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool chart.

It really makes the point to me that the PS1 and PS2, when adjusted for inflation, and for relative compute power, were just such a fantastic deal.

I was recovering from some serious console-purchase fatigue, when I bought my PS1 to replace my garage sale purchased Super NES. It was a big deal to me.

I've paid PS5 prices (inflation adjusted) for a game system a few times (my first Switch and SteamDeck), but they've been a lot more mind blowing than what appears to be on offer today.

Disclaimer: My favorite game is 8-bit, anyway.

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[–] exanime@lemmy.world 92 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

And for those who have not tried it, the desktop is fully functional (not some half baked version. My son uses the desktop mode as a full school workstation for internet browsing, email, teams, Google docs, etc

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 56 points 1 month ago (3 children)

More people should thank KDE for the desktop mode.

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[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That sells it for me. Steam Deck is in my future. Windows will not be my next OS.

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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

That is KDE Plasma for those who are curious. It is one of the main desktop environments in Linux. It is my daily driver on my main PC. It is the most customizable desktop I know of. There is nothing you can't change.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I had to use mine as a desktop for two weeks while my PC was undergoing a repair. It was wholly uneventful: installed OpenOffice and had a wholly normal workweek. It’s perfectly fine to use as a regular, boring desktop if you need it to. Absolutely love the Steamdeck. Every gamer should have one.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Eventually, Sony will stop supporting the PS5 and it'll be a brick. If Valve ever stops supporting the Steamdeck, it'll keep running.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (13 children)

All (most?) of your games will run on your future computers.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know what the main difference between the Steam Deck OLED and the PS5 Pro is? Customers wanted and asked for the Steam Deck OLED.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I really like my PS5, but I see no value in a model costing 80% more and being only current for half a generation.

All that for an "up to" 40% performance increase.

I don't care how much of a graphics nerd someone is, that just isn't worth it.

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 60 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Sales on PSN are appalling compared to Steam as well. Plus you can also get Steam sales on other sites like Fanatical.

Steam also has better remote play, and Steam custom controller profiles with nearly any controller are amazing.

Also nearly no backwards compatibility issues, whereas PS5 will only play/stream limited games from the past.

[–] scops@reddthat.com 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The PlayStation store is also a miserable shopping experience. If you don't know what game you want or just want to browse, good fucking luck finding it there. No screenshots, no gameplay, no user reviews, no related games to compare to, no info about if your friends are wishlisting or playing it. Just a choice of buying the expensive version or the more expensive version, and good luck figuring out which DLC is already included in the deluxe editions.

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[–] monogram@feddit.nl 39 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Not to mention that you can buy the previous version for 300 € and get most of the same value (less storage, gpu, screen, battery)

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[–] TheYang@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Also the price scales wayyyy better. Steam Deck starts at 313,65€ now.

if you have less money, buy that, get an sd card, and if you enjoy it put an ssd in later.

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[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Cheapest OLED steam deck is $549.00 (USD) while the most expensive is $649.00 (USD).

So really either way not only all those positives, but it's also at least $50 cheaper (which you can use to buy several games on Steam...)

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[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Subscription for Internet access is the one that's always baffled me. What a stupid business model. I guess devices not belonging to their buyers is not a new thing.

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[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Both run games at 720p

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No joke, I'm tempted to buy a Steam Deck (or true Linux phone) because... It can run a local HTML/CSS/JS app on a browser with filesystem access and audio support. This is the power of having an OS that is not locked down.

Speaking of which, what would you recommend for me to run a local HTML/CSS/JS app on a browser with filesystem access and audio support? (No, Android is too locked down to meet that spec) Other required specs:

  • Portable: Can fit in a pocket
  • 16GB or more usable storage
  • Bluetooth support
  • Ideally low-cost
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[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago (11 children)

If I'm playing modern games on a TV? PS5 easy. But still the pro over the deck.

I love my deck. As the handheld it's intended to be. It's not powerful enough for an acceptable experience running a AAA 3D game on a TV screen. You can ignore the resolution and artifacts and just generally low visual quality and poor frame rate on a small screen, because playing the games portably at all is a huge step up. You can't ignore any part of it on a TV. It's fine for indie games, older games, 2D stuff, etc.

But it doesn't have the performance for a good living room experience if you're looking to play modern AAA games. (Ignoring all their bullshit rootkits on PC that block a lot of multiplayer games out completely, which are the games you have to pay for on PS. You just can't play most of them on Linux at all.)

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Studios that can release games on consoles don't even target people like me. I'm not going to get a console to play 5 good AAA games a year.

A steamdeck however...

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[–] SankaraStone@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

And I can install games from other store fronts if I want.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some of the points in the meme are weaker versions of the full truth:

Desktop OS and you can substitute your own.

Biggest game library and you can also side load your stuff from other stores.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The most expensive Steam Deck is still cheaper in my country. €680. While the PS5 Pro is €800.

And many will just buy the cheaper version and replace the SSD by themselves. The 512GB OLED version plus a 2TB drive is only €50 more expensive than the 1TB version. So even with like for like storage it’s still cheaper than the PS5P

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Since buying a steam deck I've spent more money on games I can play on it than I would normally for the pc.

That's still cheaper than buying a ps5 on its own without the extra cost of games.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

One can be used in an airport/aircraft/train and the other can not.

One is fit for travelling and the other is not

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

*squints* Sir, that is an LCD model you have there.

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

Also the Steamdeck has games worth playing.

If I was forced at gun point to switch back to console gaming I'd pick the latest Xbox just because of the backwards compatibility.

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