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MAGA Official Found Guilty of Tampering with 2020 Voting Machines (www.rollingstone.com)

submitted 2 months ago by Gsus4@mander.xyz to c/news@lemmy.world

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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 143 points 2 months ago

See we know for a fact that the 2020 election was rigged, because we rigged it, so they must have rigged it harder

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 78 points 2 months ago (2 children)

She looks exactly how I would expect.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was expecting even older. Other than that...

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That hair has seen a lot of managers.

[–] CareHare@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Textbook 'Karen'

[–] suction@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She’s got an evil eye

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 2 months ago

Stink eye.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Hey, there's enough of them in prison now to form their own prison gang! I wonder what they'll call themselves. Will they be the most feared prison gang in the yard? Imagine the tats!

[–] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Swastikas?

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, plenty of white supremacist gangs in prison already. Would be redundant.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago

Oh, so they'll just merge with the Manson cult?

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They were so dedicated to making America great again that they got themselves locked up, which just a little bit made America greater.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

So selfless!

[–] suction@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

They’ll have to compete with The Chosen Oy Vey Matzah Ball Gang.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

"Way!"

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, Trump was absolutely right, there was fraud there was election rigging.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

#stopoursteal

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

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[+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -83 points 2 months ago (7 children)

So now can we admit that voting fraud is a thing? Can we get voter ID?

[–] rimu@piefed.social 65 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

She didn't commit voting fraud. She granted access to voting data to people who should not have had that access.

Tina Peters was convicted of three counts of attempting to influence a public official; conspiracy to commit criminal impersonation; official misconduct; violation of duty; and failure to comply with an order of the Secretary of State. The jury acquitted Peters of three counts: conspiracy to commit criminal impersonation, criminal impersonation and identity theft.

https://coloradosun.com/2024/08/12/tina-peters-verdict/

[–] flying_gel@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No problem with ID for voting, just have to make sure they're accessible by all at no cost (both time and monetary).

Republicans proposals for voter ID so far have been riddled with ID exclusions that, while never admitted to, would exclude a large part of the population that they don't want to be allowed to vote. Either include more types of ID or make sure to provide everyone with a voter id for free before the election.

[–] Spot@startrek.website 11 points 2 months ago

My state doesn't even require one but they send a little paper one every time I update my registration. I imagine something like that could be used? Homeless could use a library or shelter as an address for them?

There would probably be some asshat who would try and snag other's though. So yeah. Probably best to just stay without.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 41 points 2 months ago

For that, you need to make ID mandatory and easily accessible first. Otherwise it's just voter suppression.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tampering with voting machines will not be solved by voter ID cards... This is an unrelated discussion. For my thoughts on voter ID cards, see @flying_gel@lemmy.world's response

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Republicans: dishonestly conflating election fraud with voter fraud since who knows how long.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

It's normal to require an ID card in EU countries to vote, but e.g. in the UK they never asked for it, as long as my name was on the list (there are no national ID cards there).

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was baffled when I heard that in the US, you can't just go somewhere and vote. Like, it really is that simple here.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But you have to register beforehand, right? And use some form of ID or a Name+address combo that makes it impossible to impersonate you to hijack your vote.

[–] vovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

The United States is one of the few democracies in the world where the government does not take any responsibility in registering its citizens. This one-of-a-kind, self-initiated voter registration process acts as a major barrier to voter turnout and leads to often- inaccurate voter rolls. In contrast, the international norm is a process of government-mandated automatic voter registration of every citizen who reaches voting age. This report explores how other major well-established democracies (Canada, Australia, Sweden, Italy, New Zealand and others) concretely manage to build comprehensive, inclusive, accurate voting rolls that leave no voters behind while ensuring a high level of privacy.

https://archive.fairvote.org/rtv/Universal%20Voter%20Registration-4-21-09.pdf

[–] PoorlySketchedIdiot@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In the UK, we are required to show our legal ID to vote (The tories brought it in a few years ago). Our driving licences are national ID cards, practically.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

and ID cards were revoked again https://www.gov.uk/identitycards

PS: ok, you're right, "some" ID is required since 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65599380 which is a pickle if you don't drive or have a passport.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

In South Africa it's the same. Each person gets a ID card when they turn 16. You don't need to pay for your first one.

You need to register as a voter with your ID card and present it when voting.

[–] DarkDecay@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

As long as they're for maga officials sure. They seem to be doing most of the voter fraud afterall

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

For many decades North Dakota didn't even have voter registration. In 2012 it was alleged that nine individuals were suspect, so the state finally passed a voter registration law in 2013. But none of those 2012 individuals were charged. So then ask yourself, why did they pass the law? Well, maybe they passed the law so they could disenfranchise college kids and Native Americans. Actually, that's not hypothetical. That's a fact. Native communities had to bring legal challenges against the new law because they were facing difficulty voting.

I think it's also helpful to look at historical examples. When MLK was locked up in Birmingham Jail, there were counties in Alabama that were majority black and yet no black people could vote. Imagine that. Voting laws being crafted to keep minorities out.

So you keep pushing for your voter ID, but if you can't figure out how to keep your state from becoming the next North Dakota or Alabama, it probably will.