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[–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 569 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’m glad to be totally off of Reddit now but I have to say, props to the mods doing this kind of stuff. It’s pretty hilarious

[–] db2@lemmy.one 197 points 2 years ago (10 children)

They're getting no end of grief from bad/paid actors though.

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 184 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The amount of whinging and bootlicking from people taking Spez's side was insane before I left for good.

[–] claymedia@lemmy.world 148 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It doesn’t seem organic. Protest posts would get 95% upvotes, then suddenly 12 hours later get slammed with bootlickers and downvotes.

[–] shinjiikarus@mylem.eu 81 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Reddit felt really astroturfed for years now. Start mentioning Neill Druckman in any capacity and your post immediately got flooded with copy paste hate centered on TLoU2. It seemed organic at the time, but when the TV series came out it was very sus, as if somebody had forgotten to turn off their bot army.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 43 points 2 years ago

I've talked to a few that seemed organic, but those were basically people who wanted Reddit to get back to normal and not waste time on bullshit that didn't affect them personally.

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[–] ThatGirlKylie@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wasn’t it proven that majority of the positive spez posts are from bots or chatgpt or something?

[–] justgohomealready 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

At least one post defending spez in r/programming has been shown to be chatGPT, that's for sure. If they have one bot, who's to say they don't have thousands?

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[–] Vorrash@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You just described Reddit in general

[–] db2@lemmy.one 48 points 2 years ago (9 children)

No doubt, but they've really ramped up lately. It's like all the manchildren from t_D suddenly saw their chance to be assholes again without consequence.

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[–] Onlytanner@lemmy.world 303 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I honestly expected after the API changes rolled out that the backlash on Reddit would stop but I'm glad to see the shenanigans continue.

[–] omgnvq@feddit.nl 118 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Same, as much as I hope lemmy succeeds, I simultaneously hope that the API changes get reversed. Good job to those fighting for this over there

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago

I am afraid the two might be mutually exclusive. Lemmy is like old Reddit and still on early adopters. We get more and more newcomers only because Reddit is going downhill.

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[–] shinjiikarus@mylem.eu 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

I believe the failed Twitter-to-Mastodon exodus made spez and his yesmen cocky. I hope they underestimated how much more tech savvy the average redditor is - especially the nexus poster, who keep the community afloat.

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[–] popemichael@lemmy.world 189 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So long as it hurts Reddit, all the better.

This whole API issue is a lost cause, so the only thing that can be done now is to make Reddit lose big.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yep the fight for Reddit is lost. All we can do is make an example of them.

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[–] Polydextrous@lemmy.world 75 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m really fuckin loving getting to watch this war being waged on Reddit from Lemmy. I was really worried that, on the first, all of the protests would peter and those of us pissed about it would be gone and things would just even out for the company. Love to see it still being fought, and more dirty than ever.

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[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 189 points 2 years ago (24 children)

I wish more of the larger subs were still protesting and didn't roll over so easily. But regardless the site has taken a massive hit to its reputation and one can only hope that recovery won't be possible moving forward and it screws them out of their chance to go public.

[–] tappyturtle@programming.dev 73 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think most of the larger ones were forced to reopen by the admins

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 71 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Admin was kicking mods that didn't approve. Absolutely forced to reopen.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The article mentions r/pics, r/vids, and r/funny

These are large subs.

[–] bittabet@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don’t worry, doordash_drivers is now a recommended sub for everyone 💀

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 132 points 2 years ago (26 children)

As much as I'd love to log into Reddit and see this go down, I'm happy just not using Reddit. How much longer do you think they'll hold out?

[–] Blaze@sh.itjust.works 111 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Do not underestimate average people's resilience to enshittification

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 127 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm happy that they're keeping it up, but I've already moved on to the point that even if Reddit were to completely go back on the API change, I wouldn't come back. Personally I've already moved the goal post to where Steve Huffman needs to go before I'd consider ever going back. Reddit is dead for all I care.

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[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 117 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I love it. Especially that the mods of the default subs have the balls to do it

[–] sci@feddit.nl 54 points 2 years ago

turns out it's not a good idea to piss off the unpaid people put in charge of front page subreddits

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[–] seperis@lemmy.world 116 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Okay, hear me out:

I get the argument that most of these protests are meaningless/if you REALLY want to change you're going to have to do this this this. whatever (I usually stop reading there). I understand, but I don't agree.

Sure, it's nice when a protest can actually enact real changes but lets face it; that's not common and sometimes not going to happen: fine. The decision to make a protest shouldn't be decided on the basis of 'can I win'; a much less restrictive--and very deeply fun--philosophy should be "is this worth taking time out of my day just to annoy/frustrate/irritate those who are doing this?' If yes (it should always be yes), "So lets find out how many ways me and anyone else I can recruit can make this happen'.

In other words: every time a subreddit finds a new and interesting and stupid and ridiculous and just weird way to be irritating and embarrassing af...I am living for this.

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 72 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Very refreshing take on it. The cynicism about whether the protests were 'worth it' because we didn't see massive results felt like it missed all the fun of giving the greedy corporation the collective finger.

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[–] chackl@lemmy.world 105 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can’t wait for the Reddit IPO to fail

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fidelity has been dropping the valuation of its stake in reddit, and that's only as of May 31st. We don't know yet how the value will respond to all this drama, but I suspect it will go down more.

The IPO might not fail, but they probably won't get what they wanted out of it.

Unfortunately this probably means that the platform will sell to people who expect to get use out of it for direct public influence of some kind (marketing/politics).

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[–] KidDogDad@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just went and looked at r/videos and I gotta admit that the text-only descriptions of videos and enforcing swearing in every post title is pretty funny.

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[–] Digester@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

No point in protesting, we already have a better alternative.

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[–] fidodo@lemm.ee 80 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's so weird to see all the people still fighting on Reddit when I've already moved on

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[–] tiny_tina_@lemm.ee 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit is a lot less active now. Gotta love it

[–] DadHands@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People on Reddit keep saying things are mostly back to normal, while tiny subs are hitting the front page of /r/all on the regular with like 2k votes.

Also, I've noticed a pretty significant increase in overt racism. Or rather, significant decrease in moderation of it. I shouldn't be surprised but it keeps catching me off-guard.

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[–] Naura@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I agree.

Also when we’re all being fucked over no one has a right to say how we (in general) should be protesting. People get to show their anger in whatever way they want. It’s like people asking for civility so they don’t have to deal with uncomfortable messages. Um fuck no. NSFW all the way if that’s what one decides.

Thanks for agitating

[–] VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago

The start of your comment reminded me of the exchange between Trevor Noah & Tomi Lauren where Trevor asks her, okay, so if this protest isn't good, and this kind isn't good, how should black people protest? How should they make their grievances known? And she just could not answer that question. Protests aren't comfortable--they're disruptive by nature. If protests don't challenge anything or make anyone uncomfortable, what are they even doing?

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[–] athlon@lemm.ee 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

For for how much heavy handed their initial reaction was, I’m surprised that Reddit doesn’t take more aggressive actions. Spez has the loudest voice on highest pole, yet so far he only managed to anger everyone.

Fuck Spez.

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[–] Voli@lemmy.ml 51 points 2 years ago

Feels like reading the frontline news from far away. Keep fighting bastards, I don’t know what the end goal will lead too but i know it will be hands of us the victors.

[–] chackl@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Can’t wait for Reddit admins and Spez to realize they have failed.

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[–] InternetPirate@lemmy.fmhy.ml 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

TLDR: Subreddits are protesting against Reddit's API changes, and r/pics, a subreddit with over 30 million members, has marked itself as NSFW (not safe for work). This means that advertisements can no longer be displayed alongside posts in the subreddit. The protest started in June when thousands of subreddits participated in a blackout to protest Reddit's plans to charge for API access. The changes have resulted in third-party apps like Apollo shutting down. As part of the protest, r/pics initially only allowed images of comedian John Oliver to be shared and later amended its rules to allow media featuring Oliver, including erotic fan fiction. The subreddit's moderators posted an "open letter" reminding the community not to swear, as marking the community as NSFW would deprive Reddit of advertising revenue. Reddit has reportedly removed mods for marking their communities NSFW as a protest. Despite this, r/pics was officially marked NSFW on Monday. Other subreddits, such as r/videos and r/funny, are also protesting in their own ways.

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