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[–] shinjiikarus@mylem.eu 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I believe the failed Twitter-to-Mastodon exodus made spez and his yesmen cocky. I hope they underestimated how much more tech savvy the average redditor is - especially the nexus poster, who keep the community afloat.

[–] Countess425@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think they overestimated how much engagement the average reditter provides. Most people are consuming content, but not contributing any or posting comments or clicking ads or anything. 90% of engagement is driven by like 20% of users or some shit like that.

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I suspect twitter is similar. But a difference between Reddit and twitter is how easily power users can migrate.

On twitter, you follow people. Power users were often cautious cause they didn't want to lose their followers and non power users wanted to be where the power users are.

But on Reddit, you follow communities. For power users, there's few direct followers to lose and for non power users, as long as there's enough content, it doesn't matter much who created it.

Another important difference is that reddit concepts map better onto lemmy than twitter onto mastodon. Additionally, one important aspect of twitter is the proximity to journalists, celebrities and politicians. Reddit doesn't really have that (except for /r/iama).

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be fair, Mastodon is still growing and it's much easier to use now than a year ago. Reddit didn't uproot Digg overnight.

[–] shinjiikarus@mylem.eu 3 points 2 years ago

I personally have left for Mastodon and never looked back. Ivory is making it so easy and beautiful. But I’m not following sassy quipsters, c-tier celebrities and outrage farmers, so I’m not really anything that stayed on Twitter. But a lot of these “nexus posters” haven’t done the switch and/or had done it but returned to Twitter.

[–] thesanewriter@vlemmy.net 2 points 2 years ago

Indeed, which of course communicates a fundamental misunderstanding about how people use Reddit vs. Twitter. On Twitter/Mastodon people primarily follow other users, so Twitter remains dominant due to the large number of celebrities, influencers, and politicians that use it. On Reddit/Lemmy, people follow communities, and as such as long as both are active a given community on Lemmy is just as good as a community on Reddit. This also of course impacts federation. With individual user federation discovery can be challenging and small instances will have relatively barren all feeds, but with community federation even instances with a few dozen users will federate with enough communities to fill the all feed. Reddit was also famous for the multitude of very nice features implemented by third party developers, all of which they just ejected, which means now those nice features will be available to Lemmy users. Apps are capable of abstracting and improving the user experience by suggesting instances to sign up to and presenting a unified feed of all of the instance feeds that the app has connected to, making everything feel far more connected. In a way I'm grateful to u/spez, his awfulness as a CEO pushed people here and made a lot of this possible.

[–] StumblingHunter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Eh. They_were_ until about 4(?) years ago. I noticed there was a big shift when all of a sudden nobody cared about spelling and grammar mistakes anymore, and Reddit itself started changing to be more average-person minded. But in the beginning absolutely yes, that's why the format was the way it was