trump said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose any votes. this all seems like it's going according to plan.
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The boys did this last season. Its complete satire but its like holding a mirror to reality at the moment.
Seems like he's not the only one who can do this now
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Biden has the chance to do a big, big funny here.
He wont even condemn Israel to improve his ratings. At this point it seems that the democrats are trying to get trump elected.
What if democracy lost 12 years ago and they just pretended the Dems still existed?
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If he relly believes democracy is at stake there is only one course of action left
I used the chistofascist supreme court to destroy the chistofascist supreme court.
Middle of the next debate, right in the forehead. Needs a good walk-off one liner to follow it though, that’s probably the biggest obstacle for him
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Cyberpunk Intensifies.
How long until the President is also the sitting CEO of Raytheon or Blackwater?
Does this mean the President can murder the SC members they don't like and replace them?
Sure. Even better, if you replace them with ones that will rule this was an error and the president only gets qualified immunity, you'll still be in the clear because you were acting on what you thought the law was.
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If he went to their homes and strangled them himself? Yes. If he ordered someone to do it? The laws and UCMJ apply to those people so no. There's this thing people keep forgetting about. The UCMJ isn't just guidelines. It's actual rules. And murder is still illegal.
If he went to their homes and strangled them himself?
I was actually think of him pulling a Vlad the Impaler and inviting them over for dinner.
The UCMJ isn’t just guidelines. It’s actual rules. And murder is still illegal.
If there's anything I learned from the Trump years, hell even the Bush II years, is that there are no rules if no one enforces them.
IANAL, but there is the presidential power to pardon. So the president could in theory give an illegal order (as long as it is an official act they have immunity) and promise a presidential pardon once the order is fulfilled (therefore extending immunity to the perpetrator). Meaning the president can entirely circumvent the UCMJ.
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Congrats everyone, we got the Purge, but remember this is America where hoarding happens. Everyone doesn’t get one day, one person gets 4 years.
The real question is, if you defend yourself with a gun is it considered self defence or just the assasination of the president?
Its like in that movie with convicted drug trafficker, Tim Allen, where if you kill Santa Clause you become Santa Claus. If you kill the president, even on accident, you become the president.
Instead of getting fat really fast, you get old.
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Yes.
So... Same as it's been since the war on terror began in 2001?
Oh, now they can assassinate white people in first world countries, not just drop bombs on weddings in mideast countries. I see. Totally makes all the difference.
(I am feeling very cynical here haha, I get this is a big significant legal precedent for the USA but yeah)
This was kind of my response. Everyone is thinking of Trump's shit, I was wondering about Al Awlaki. Assassinate a 16yo American citizen at a child's birthday party in Yemen? Np.
What result did we expect except some weird middle ground that allows the war on terror and a shitload of other extra-judicial killings with no proper declaration of war? They're codifying immunity that was already assumed.
Thank you for being a far better person than I, in that you actually give enough of a fuck to remember at least one specific, named person who was murdered in the way I was described.
This is not sarcasm it's a genuine emotional appreciation. I don't have it in me to remember, since all the shit news day in and day out just all blurs together and is too much for me to cope with if I tried to remember, but I'm glad someone is.
Two. The Seals got his little sister.
It does blur. I used to watch all the videos of police murders and try to remember the names. I also used to hope we would make progress.
I think this ruling was the most likely outcome, but I was kinda wishing we'd get every ex-president, except maybe Jimmy Carter, in front of a firing squad.
But remember, if you do drugs, you go to hell and fucking die
Maybe social media was not worth it.
So, the President is legally allowed to just kill anyone, but if anyone is resisting, even just saying “if you kill my uncle’s nephew’s father’s roommate and I will seek revenge”, it’s
18 U.S. Code § 1751 - “Presidential and Presidential staff assassination, kidnapping, and assault,” which covers attempts to kill or inflict harm on the President.
18 U.S. Code § 871 - “Threats against the President and successors to the Presidency,” which criminalizes threats to kill or harm the President.
That's an Onion article, right?
Right?
No
The best part is that whatever illegal thing Biden would do, will be designated as an unofficial act by the SC and whatever Trump will do will be designated as an official act. Kind of genius. I was asking myself before how they would get around the fact that they give Biden the same power that they wanted to give to Trump, but they don't by leaving themselves a food in the door to decide on each single act themselves.
If it is an official act, which would mean they would have to assassinate you in their function of being the president. In other words, they couldn't just kill their neighbors.
They could probably kill them as part of a celebration, I guess. Jk, I hope.
"Trump was a threat to democracy and I took appropriate action"
Literal fascist shit? Yes. Legal? Who knows? By the time they figure it out, biden will be dead from old age.
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I have seen this plot before... In a game from Japan where the president beats everyone up in a fucking giant mecha
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We are cooked. Completely cooked. American democracy is over and it's time to prepare for a harsh right wing fascist regime.
...but vote for Biden.
It was too late 12 years ago, this is everything playing out. Everyone acted like the 2020 election was our fight to keep democracy, we had already lost it by then, the conservative plan just hadn't been completed yet.
I am not saying you should go vote and vote for Biden. I am saying that, we can never, ever elect another Republican again, or we are fucked, I do not see the that happening. If we beat trump in 2024, we may not in 2028, or new trump, whoever the new right wing strong man is may win in 2032.
It's already over, it's been over. Our chance to stop this was long before anyone even realized it was a problem.
The problem didn't start, nor does it end with trump, he is just a convenient strong man to put as the face of the movement
time to prepare for a harsh right wing fascist regime
Wow, that's a good point, but some people may take it the wrong way and say things like 'what taco bell are we meeting up at to plan to depose the current massively corrupt Supreme.... taco?' 'Is surprise attacks on Taco Bell's military installations a viable objective?' 'Would the taco bell 'fresh crew' join the efforts to over turn the corporate structure?' 'Or should we all just move to Spain and enjoy the authentic taste of a secular society with universal healthcare and tapas as far as the eye can see'?
Obama literally did kill an american 16 year old in yemen, so this is nothing new.
But that kid was killed by an attack marked ''to whom it may concern'', not a focused deliberate attack with his name on it. He was a casualty, not a victim of assassination.
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Obama literally did kill an american 16 year old
Not to be purposely irritating by being pedantic, but I think my hyper-literal thinking style is having trouble believing this. I don't think Obama literally killed a 16 y/o. He may have given an order, approved of it, or placed someone in charge that decided to do it, but I doubt that he personally killed the 16 y/o. Is my understanding of the word "literally" incorrect in this case?
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