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[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

β€œI’ve never experienced it so you must just be imagining it” pretty much describes the conflict of every issue out there, from race to mental illness. Hell, even things like homelessness.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There's also the "I have suffered it and therefore everyone else must suffer it as well"

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget "I've suffered it and it wasn't that bad so don't pretend it is"

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Which actually means "I've pretended to suffer it and you are probably too".

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Sometimes it means "I did a thing in the past and don't recognise the ways in which it has changed over time to become worse today than it was in my day".

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[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

the two faces of an extremely punchable coin

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Teach your son those things too.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: it's pizzacake

Some people don’t know how to click downvote and move on with their day,
or make a comment,
or unsubscribe,
or make their own c/ComicsExceptPizzaCake community.

Some people have to talk to the manager and waste my time.

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[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Ah yes.

The group of men, which granted IS larger than it should be, that say stupid shit like this online or in person is not representative of men in GENERAL.

If I sat there and tried to bring out the worst characteristics my exes had for ALL women, I would be as much of an asshole as this comic creator is.

There will, unfortunately, ALWAYS be bad actors in the human race. Those that get their kicks from saying stupid shit like the man in this comic, because they have nothing better in life to do and probably hate their life so much that they do and say the stupid shit they do because they are broken people in one way or another.

Does that mean that all men are the same? No, of course not, and it’s kind of silly to even think that way to begin with.

Are all women as horrible, cheating and uncaring as my exes? No, of course not! I have a beautiful and caring woman in my life now who treats me well!

I think we sometimes let the minority outclass the majority, especially when trying to spin a narrative that basically ends up being: All men = bad All women = bad All white people = bad All black people = bad

The reality is, folks, that you need to keep the bigger picture in your mind at all times.

Did that group of people on an online forum act in bad faith? Yes? Then move on, and let their toxicity eat away at them until they no longer exist in this world. By giving them your time, and letting them upset you, you are doing exactly what they are wanting, which is to cause chaos and dissent for no real reason other than getting a rise out of someone or to fool someone else into thinking the same way.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

Neither side in this sex war seems willing to admit that both parties are deeply behaviorally flawed in terms of operating within an (at least in rhetoric) equitable society we all claim to want with one another.

I think step zero would be for both men and women to admit that both are deeply flawed in their engagement with one another, acknowledge both are trying to operate within sociocultural environments we are evolutionarily unprepared for, and therefore shouldn't expect perfection or even competency from the other, so we can work to bridge the massive empathy deficit between us.

But since healing doesn't trend on social media or in culture like vitriol, insult, or indignation, carry on.

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[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Weird, this pulled more down votes than a lot of the posts around it.

I wonder why.

[–] classic@fedia.io 2 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Because some of us just don't like pizzacake

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is that even a stat you can gather on lemmy? I have no idea frankly.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

You ask that ... on the internet...?

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I legitimately don't understand how a man can be blind to this kind of treatment of women. Don't you just need to look at any treatment of women online for more than a nanosecond and you'll see this?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

My hypothesis is it's two major parts:

  1. Protect one's ego at all costs. Anything that makes you feel bad, at all, is to be rejected.
  2. Join in-groups that do not value or respect women.

For most people, belief is more social than we'd like to admit. So if your in-groups are a bunch of jerks who think women "talk too much" or whatever, you'll probably adopt that. It'll be continually reinforced from your socializing. Then with point #1, any time contrary evidence that does manage to break through you'll reject it rather than doing any hard work or introspection.

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[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

To be fair, men would get near the same response. "Stupid bitch slut Ken". The hate is the same, only the names change. The internet is a hateful place with a multitude of people willing to step up and shit on you for expressing any sort of individuality or emotion.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (27 children)

I have zero thoughts or comments on this specific comic, but can we please leave pizzacake on reddit? They were already plenty inescapable enough there.

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