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[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

“I’ve never experienced it so you must just be imagining it” pretty much describes the conflict of every issue out there, from race to mental illness. Hell, even things like homelessness.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There's also the "I have suffered it and therefore everyone else must suffer it as well"

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget "I've suffered it and it wasn't that bad so don't pretend it is"

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Which actually means "I've pretended to suffer it and you are probably too".

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

"I experienced racism. I was called a potato once and seriously, it wasn't as bad as all the n* pretend it is. Get over it."

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago

Sometimes it means "I did a thing in the past and don't recognise the ways in which it has changed over time to become worse today than it was in my day".

[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

the two faces of an extremely punchable coin

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

exactly. empathy is the ability to realize other people have different experiences than you. to think about what it's actaully like to be homeless.

but people think it means 'just agree with me and make me feel good, and if i feel bad for people i am a good person'

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Most people I know lack empathy for things like this. Even people I’ve grown up with my whole life.

So that raises the question, is it something you’re inherently born with? As I don’t think I chose to be this way, but here we are. I find it interesting to think about.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

getting beyond ape-brain requires a lot of learning and practice. like any skill.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Empathy is definitely a learned trait that develops slowly. Children generally start off treating life as if it has a preset plot and other people as sort of NPCs or characters in their life. Realising other people and even animals experience things at all should happen at some point. And realising their experiences are different again later. But it's a complicated process and may even fail.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/smart-parenting-smarter-kids/201905/how-children-develop-empathy looked pretty good from a quick search. Otherwise that's just my memory from basic psychology classes.

Thanks for the response. I guess some people still think everybody else is an NPC into later life lol.

I’ll have a read of that link over the weekend so thanks for sharing.

[–] techognito@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The fact that there could be someone out there thinking, "I have 17 homes, so clearly they are imagining not having a home", does not shock me

edit: grammar and my brains is a mix of spaghetti and mashed potatoes

[–] Eranziel@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It's more like, "I own 17 homes and it wasn't that hard to get that many. They must not be trying hard enough."