Don't demand. Sue.
this post was submitted on 11 Dec 2023
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First demand, then sue. Can't get the suit to court if you can't show that you tried asking first.
Also, even if you’re suing - litigation can take months/years. But the damage is done instantly. I don’t think there’s an easy solution here.
There's a quote for everything, almost like we've been through exactly this before...
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."
Easy solution is for People to stop being such utter idiots. So, you are correct, never happening.
You can, the main difference is that if they refuse you can prove stuff like intent to demand higher damages
That's not true. You don't have to ask someone to stop committing defamation before suing them for defamation.
The video in question, shared by a top Trump adviser, opens with authentic footage of NBC News senior Capitol Hill correspondent Garrett Haake previewing the debate for the network. It soon cuts to video of each candidate as a voiceover — in Haake’s voice — makes disparaging comments about the candidates.
“This is Ron DeSantis: An establishment RINO that wears insoles in order to look taller,” the voiceover says. “And this is Nikki Haley: Nobody really gives a shit about Nikki Haley.”
I guarantee you there are a significant number of Trump fans to whom it wouldn't even occur that an NBC news correspondent wouldn't intentionally say 'shit' on a national news broadcast.
Yep. The teabaggers are not really known for being all that sentient.
It will be interesting what this form of yellow journalism will look like in a few short years...
I have a feeling it will be quick and nasty. Deep fakes aren't just behind a door, it's a floodgate waiting to be opened.
Also works both ways making it even worse. Actually catch someone saying something abhorrent on a hot mic? It was AI, I swear.
Not sure if it's an even fight. There's actual video of Trump saying any number of disgusting (or even non-republican things, like that time he proposed to take people's guns without due process), and it's not affecting his support.
Yeah, in the specific case of Trump. Someone much more savvy at not screwing up/not getting caught is bound to use the excuse successfully eventually.
That's what happens when you let the already rich and powerful control the entire system: they get away with anything up to and including "shooting a guy in the middle of Fifth Avenue".
works both ways
No way. On one side you have a crazed cult of emotionally driven, "poorly educated", violent dolts who refuse the truth while seeking any possible outrage against their non-crazy "enemies".
They didn't say "both sides". They're saying that a flood of AI bullshit also makes real information harder to trust, which is true.
Welp, you helped create the monster, NBC, starting with The f’ing Apprentice . Good luck to you, now.'
Well, we warned you all, but you didn't listen. Expect tons of this garbage next year, and more importantly, expect it to work.
We are just starting the misinformation age, it will get worse
I would say before we were in the misinformation age. I think I'd call this coming stuff the disinformation age. Disinformation existed before, but this is another level. Creating totally new information to mislead people is somewhat different that misrepresenting what happened.
Unfortunately I think we've been living in it for awhile already. All you need to do is say a thing with a big enough platform and the people decide if they want to believe it or not. They don't care if it's factual, they just care who's saying it.
Video posted November 8. Little late…
Fuck NBC, we saw you're rage bait profiterring from the Trump years and we know you made more money from him than you do anyone else. Dont lie with dogs if you don't want fleas.
Here is the video. It is actually pretty funny. I hate Trump as much as the next lemming, but this really is an obvious parody once you watch the whole video. I think NBC is complaining not because of the parody, but because the fake voice-over is too good and sets a bad precedent. It shows how good the tech is and how it could be used more subtly to create fake news (not that there aren't already many ways to do that).
https://x.com/lacivitac/status/1722390782387089643?s=46&t=a3ohj6oncFjZ8uOAQMEdJg
Agreed. It's clearly intended to be funny. The fact that people are losing their minds about this and think it should be legally actionable are a) wrong, and b) terrifying me, because this is clearly parody and protected by the first amendment. I hate Trump too, but that doesn't mean we should seek to set legal precedent that limits the ability of people to make fun of the political process. Sheesh. That goes nowhere good.