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[–] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 82 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

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some fucking smartass cunt, the absolute bane of my existence, the most annoying creature in this universe: "please use propper spelling and punctuation🤓🤓"

words can not express the hate i feel for this kind of person

[–] Neil@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Aretsu33@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago
[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nerorero@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago
[–] drislands@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously. It's never helpful to be smug and condescending about spelling and grammar. When I offer correction, I always make sure to be strictly factual and polite wherever possible, because sometimes people just don't know the difference.

[–] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

i dont mind getting corrected. what i hate is ppl telling me that my spelling or punctuation sucks without offering any corrections. this is especially great when they use this to discredit me

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought that correcting spelling or grammar at all is ableist and condescending. If you can understand what they meant at all, then leave it alone. At least, that's what I get told.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Whoever says that is incorrect in general, though there are specific scenarios where it is needlessly discriminating and just wrong -- such as trying to correct dialects (think color/colour).

[–] zerofk@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Couldn'shan'not'n've

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s so funny 😂😂

I can totally understand. Everything about English is difficult.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hungarian ia the superior language, everything is pronounced how it's written, no genders, date format is close to iso 8601 wxcept with dots instead of -, you literally just add stuff to the word to change its meaning.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

date format is close to iso 8601

Bro that's all you had to say

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also:

  • No guesswork about where to place the emphasis because it's always the first syllable (glaring at Slavic languages)
  • No guesswork about pronunciation beause every letter has exactly one (glaring intensely at Russian)
  • No guesswork about how to construct diacriticised glyphs or diphthongs because everything is defined in the alphabet

In general, Uralic languages are always superior to Germanics, and only lose against Nordics because of the cool factor.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
  • No guesswork about pronunciation beause every letter has exactly one (glaring intensely at Russian)

Multiple pronunciations means you can choose any of those options and be correct.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

The first two are also applicable to English. I still don't understand half of English poetry because my native-french-speaking ass doesn't even have an intuitive concept of syllabic stress, and English pronunciation is so beyond fucked it's not funny. "It's pronounced read and not read" "-ough like tough not dough" how about STFU.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

close to iso 8601

Big-endian is biiig

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

if you’re willing to go back several hundred years then everything in english was also written how it was pronounced. might not be worth it though

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

lol

from all the languages I know, english is the easiest one

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i dunno man, i started learning indonesian, that one is really really simple, or at least it is so far. the verb 'is' is pretty much always implied. plural? just say the same noun twice.

and some of the words are awesome. For example. the word "sock" is "kaus kaki" which literally translates to 'hand shirt'. i love it.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

well, I don't know indonesian, so I can't say anythig on the matter

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that English is that hard. It has very easy grammar, you don't have to mess with genders and it has a straight forward sentence structure. Other languages like german, are much harder to learn.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

Again, the difficulty of language acquisition is determined by how similar the new language you are trying to learn is to the languages you already speak. There isn't any kind of objective measurement of language acquisition difficulty.

For whatever reason people are often very resistant to this fact, but just speaking several languages fluently doesn't mean you actually know shit about linguistics, and this is a very well-established concept.

So a native Mandarin speaker would probably find English and German equally difficult to acquire because they are both so unlike their own language.

Fun fact about English; Old English was even more grammatically complex than modern German but it got stripped down over the years and now accomplishes through syntax much of what it used to do with grammar.

There are also a couple of very odd qualities to English that may have come from the Celtic languages, but the idea is still pretty controversial.

[–] PsychologicalCannabis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So from all of your experience of knowing one language?

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nice joke, but no, i know 4.The toughest for me personally is czech.

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I swear every single time someone mentions language or doesn't explicitly say where they're from someone will fight you saying that you only know one language and one culture and you can't possibly know anything else lol

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

well there are some stereotypes about americans, and there are also lots of people in the world that don't know any languages other than their native ones, so I guess I can see where it's coming from,

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is that speaking different languages is not even remotely the same thing as knowing anything about linguistics. People have no idea of how little they actually know about the use of language.

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I'm honestly not sure about how people would go about learning a language without getting so involved that you inevitably catch all of that, I've never thought about it.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Вообще, считается, что чем в языке меньше падежей, тем он проще, но ок, допустим, всё это фигня. Даже в таком случае я соглашусь с тобой лишь на половину, потому что письменную часть даже не все носители способны осилить. Плюс ударения (торты или торты?)). Если ты с детства говоришь на русском, то конечно он для тебя проще, чем английский, особенно с учётом того, как последний подаётся у нас в школах и кем. Я лично его учил, смотря видео на ютубе. Сначала с сабами, потом начал понимать и без них. В общем, мой тейк состоит в том, что английский интуитивен, в то время, как в русском уже -тся -ться у многих вызывает проблемы.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Major kudos to you for learning Russian solely from YouTube videos

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

loll, man, I was talking about english when I said that I've learned it from youtube. If it were as you said, that would've been kida disproving of my point.

i guess it's less obvious when you translate my comment to english, but the words' order and phrasing are made in such way that you'll get the hint

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I misread, probably read what I wanted to read lol.

Yea, upon reading the comment again, I see what you meant to say. Russian and Ukrainian are my mother tongues, but I only learnt to properly read and write in university - not super good at reading - so I missed that.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Мои тоже. И я могу сказать, что писать по-русски я сам научился скорее в интернете, чем за партой, благо грамотеев в рунете полно, и тебя там быстро научат)

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[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

nah JavaScript is easier

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

Languages are "easier" or more "difficult" based on how similar they are to your native language. There isn't some objective measure of difficulty across languages.

[–] Speiser0@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there a programming language equivalent for this?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Hope it's not crabs.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

ECMAScript*
Are you also too lazy to learn name of the official specification and capitalisation?
Priorities.

are you too lazy to learn spelling and punctuation

what isn't homophobic but feels like it is

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

🚫 🤮engl*sh🤢🚫

[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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