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Fact time. You don't always die when shot, and the US is a baby factory. I can't find good stats on non-lethal gunshot, so I'll do the rest.
Verdict: Pretty accurate.
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Btw your 20% figure includes those at Level 1 literacy, only 8% are below level 1 (from your source)
I wanted to test myself to get a sense of what "level one literacy" actually meant but you have to pay to take the test and the OECD already gets enough of my money as is.
Here's a good study on gunshoot statistics thay include nonletal gunshot wounds:
Which comes out to about 1/7 of a person in that room being shot per year.
my favourite is how tennessee effectively made insurance more expensive for everyone because one trans child wanted to play sports with her friends in school
what's the story?
they basically put up a bill that banned tenncare from contracting with organizations that offer gender affirming care in any state, which is... a lot of organizations which limits the options which makes everything more expensive. at the time it was all based on a lawsuit from one 8 year old trans girl who wanted to play sports with her friends.
Nothing more Republican than having the government artificially restrict free market capitalism... wait that not what every Republican I've ever known has said they support. Weird.
Because all the other shit is those two people's fault somehow, obvs.
They need to make up reasons why their god is being such a piece of shit.
Holy shit the literacy rate is kinda shocking..
Do people not like to read? A quarter of the population is fucking NUTS
Some people didn't have an opportunity to learn in the first place. Lack of education doesn't make someone "fucking NUTS".
I think they meant a quarter of the population being illiterate, that is, that fact that such a statistic exists, is “fucking nuts,” not the illiterate population themselves.
If at least 1 person in the room of 400 is shot per day they'd be dead in just over a year...
Last I checked the population of the US wasn't plummeting, so what else is wrong here?
Oh no I see the point, but I'm hardly going to believe a point that's surrounded by obvious mistakes or embellishments
In this case, being more accurate would have distracted from the overall point.
Granted, attracting the dismissive comments of insufferable pedants and the wilfully obtuse isn't ideal either, but here we are 🤷
How would being more accurate distract from the point? I agree with what the post is saying, but making up statistics doesn't really help IMO and takes away from the credibility
If anything the people pointing out how others are missing the point, are actually missing the point…
There’s a middle ground between ‘autistically measuring in decimals’ and blowing something completely out of proportion to make a forced point.
People are just getting defensive because it’s an underlying point they agree with (rightly so) and going on attack for anyone calling it out for being disingenuous.
Shot does not mean killed. Of the 327 average daily people shot, 210 survive. I will however admit that 1 in 400 people being shot a day does not represent the same ratio as the 327 out of the 330,000,000 a day at all.
Also birthrate
Pedantry is a great distraction when you don't want to address problems.
Not to detract from the overall message, buuuut....
48,313 gun deaths in US in 2021.
333,000,000 people in US
On those rates 0.05 people in a room of 400 would be shot per year, so 1 person per 20 years.
It'd 1 person every 2 years in a room of 4,000.
Also those mental health numbers are off given the lifetime prevalence of most disorders being around 5%.
2/400 (0.5%) of the population identifying as trans would be 1,665,000 people - which may be plausible but idk, I generally work on the figure of ~4% of any population being LBGTQI.
Poverty numbers are probably bang on.
Fact time. You don't always die when shot, and the US is a baby factory. I can't find good stats on non-lethal gunshot, so I'll do the rest.
Verdict: Pretty accurate.
References:
I appreciate the sentiment but this is just not a very good arguing strategy.
Transphobes don't think they're just ruining some poor innocent trans people's lives for fun and enjoyment, but they actually think they're improving society by combating bad people. They think trans women are just an evolution of "I can turn the lesbians straight with my dick" misogynist men, or out to abuse children. If those things were true, they would be entirely justified. But they're not.
If trans people hypothetically were the abusive creepy harassers that they make them out to be, it wouldn't matter how few there are in society. I am also sure child rapists or terrorists are a very small part of the overall population, but nobody would argue that people who try to combat child abuse or terrorism are "unfair" or "unreasonable" just because child rapists and terrorists are a small part of the population and there's bigger problems to worry about. It doesn't matter how few evil people there are if you want to combat evil.
The point that we should instead argue over and over again is that trans people are not perpetrators, and that gender is genuinely a social construct and not majorly biologically determined, so their genders are as real as others' since they're just a social performance anyway.
It's like playing the women's autonomy card against anti-abortion people. These people genuinely believe that abortion is cold-blooded child murder. And if that were true, then obviously a woman's right to commit murder would be ludicrous. No wonder they think we're crazy from their POV. The problem is, abortion is not child murder. We need to argue against their wrong world view.
We've been through this before in the German Reich. It didn't matter to antisemites that blood libel was a myth or the stab-in-the-back myth was contrived fiction to explain how sacred Germany lost the Great War. These people want to believe Other people are vermin and their precarity will be solved by deporting them to elsewhere.
So it is with the recent propaganda pushes against trans folk (also LGBT+) The groomer myth is so old we have PSA movies warning boys about The Homosexual in from the 1960s, when our society still gave zero fucks about children's welfare.
The fear of the trans woman in the women's rest room is the same as the fear of the black family in a white neighborhood. They are eager to believe violence is justified. And no piles of statistics about incidents and crime rates is going to change their minds. They want a valid cause to purge Americans, and will settle for a vicious rumor perpetuated by FOX News and OAN.
That’s the beauty of the 400 system. Once you become part of one facet, you can achieve so much more. Poor? Now you have the opportunity to be illiterate and definitely not have health insurance. Which is convenient as you will either participate in or be privy to a crime that increases your odds of getting shot. Let’s say you hit the jackpot on all these and you recover from your injuries, you still have the opportunity to participate in mental illness!
Now the post says shot and not killed. I think that distinction is important. But I imagine those statistics are insane.
2 are trans so you decide that ruining their lives is a priority
I get to marry them both?
This analogy is flawed.
It's the people who put the people in the room who set the priorities, not the ones inside the room.
You also need to assemble this group from a random selection of people from all across the country. The context of the analogy attempts to get the reader to visualize a room of 400 people which is easiest to do by drawing on personal experience such as a school assembly. But the stats listed will not apply to a group of 400 people from the same school zone, the same age. But visualizing a group of people you have an empathetic connection to is effective because it makes you wonder "what if a large amount of my friends of these disadvantaged people?" So it makes the message more effective, but it is utilizing emotional manipulation to do so.
Jesus saves and I'm a soldier for Jesus, but only in the ways that don't cost me money or require me to make any lifestyle changes or acknowledge that I may not be perfect. Now, who's doing something that I can tangentially relate to the Bible that I'm not doing and don't plan to ever do?
Where is this happening? That's a very high shooting rate!
It's a breakdown of the United States general population, I think.
So, in a little over a year everyone in the USA will be shot? 875K people are shot daily?
Wait is this stat for real or a hyperbole? Assuming this represents the demogrpahcis of US. With a population of 333 million, there are 1.6 million trans people and 830 000 prople are shot everyday?