And the US and UK give unconditional support.
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I'm ashamed of my country and it only grows for each day that passes.
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I think it also depends on how it’s used. Like if it’s used to create a smokescreen or to light up a battle field, it’s not a war crime. If it’s used as an offensive weapon, especially in an area with civilians, it almost certainly is a war crime since, regardless of whether it’s a chemical weapon, there’s no real way to aim it at military targets without it raining down on civilians. At that point, it becomes a Geneva Conventions violation and every country has ratified the core of the Geneva Conventions.
Indeed. And per the above article,
One attack on the town of Dhayra on 16 October must be investigated as a war crime because it was an indiscriminate attack that injured at least nine civilians and damaged civilian objects, and was therefore unlawful
It does sounds like they just fired it at civilian locations to bolster their military actions.
9 casualties does not scream indiscriminate. Additionally the other example has 48 Hezbolla members and 4 civilians listed as casualties which also doesn't scream indiscriminate.
Im sure those 9 people and their families don't agree.
Sometimes, especially after a long day, a few beers, and a joint, I start to think about all the people dying in Ukrainian and Palestine. I spent a year in Iraq so it’s not hard to imagine what the physical sensation of being in one of those foxholes are hiding in one of the blown outbuildings(I can quite honestly even smell the dust and mold in the hair. Kind of taste it. I spent a lot of time in J-dam’ed buildings)but what I can’t fucking imagine is the feeling of hopelessness the Palestinians must feel. Or any realistic Ukrainian. My point is, there is absolutely no one for those 9 people’s family to turn to and that’s horrifying
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Well gosh what with Russia throwing white phosphorous at Ukraine and no consequence then with Israel also appearing to do so it's as if international law only applies to countries that aren't nuclear states
Isreal has never acknowledged its nuclear forces, nor are they party to the NPT 🤷♂️
Yeah but nobody's stupid enough to risk it. Even if there's no chance they have nukes, our (US) government is big enough, "Christian" enough, anti-Muslim enough, and bat-shit crazy violent enough to not want to FA&FO.
Or international politics is a bit complicated.
Well yeah, everything gets complicated when 'laws' come with unwritten provisos such that they don't have enforcement except when major powers want to enforce them so they effectively only apply to certain countries
Unfortunately, 'complicated' seems to provide unwarranted respectability when 'toothless' and 'dysfunctional' would suffice
Israeli authorities denied that they used white phosphorus in their military operations in Gaza and Lebanon.
Seems like they're lying. All of that taken together seems like pretty damning evidence that they do use white phosphorous shells.
White phosphorus is not considered a chemical weapon because it operates primarily by heat and flame rather than toxicity, making it an incendiary weapon. Its use is governed by Protocol III of the Convention on Conventional Weapons (CCW). Lebanon acceded to the protocol in 2017, but Israel has not.
Oh. So they're not bound by the treaty not to use it.
Lebanon is. Israel didn't sign on
That certainly makes Lebanon look better than Israel on the subject.
Even better since Lebanon isn't involved here. It's the terrorist organization Hezbollah that is. Since they're terrorists rather than a country, they're not signed on to this either.
Hezbollah have 15 ministers in parliament and are literally in the caretaker government coalition.
yeah ... but if we place all of the brown people in a open air prison... cut off their water and electricity maybe a bomb or 10000... that will fix the problem
If you can't tell the difference between middle eastern locations, maybe you shouldn't be talking about it.
The fuck you talking about? The article is about Lebanon. You don't even distinguish between countries because they are all the same to you? That's ignorant if not racist.
Why the fuck do you have a net positive on upvotes vs. downvotes? Wow people here are racist assholes.
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