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[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 116 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Proof the cable management is optional and doesn't have an effect on the computers ability to work

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Spoken like someone who's never had to replace a cable in a long run

[–] Steve@communick.news 59 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's an effect on your ability to work, not the computers. The computer still doesn't care.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Is cable management actually bad for computers? If it make the wires 10% longer to accommodate the aesthetic shapes we like, then that's 10% more time it takes for the 1s and 0s to reach their destination. I guess what I'm saying is my lack of cable management is actually a productivity hack

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[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 33 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The Borg don't have that problem. Every drone knows everything the hive knows and the hive never forgets. Therefore every drone knows which cable to replace, should the need arise.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

It's nice having a bionic eye that is directly connected to an Enterprise Content Management system which has schematics and engineering diagrams for:

  • Aforementioned cables, terminal blocks, pigtails and splices, homerun cables, and associated electrical and instrumentation loop diagrams

  • Piping and Instrumentation diagrams for all ship systems, including revision level document management

  • Plan and structural drawings of each Cube, with calculations

  • Environmental/equipment qualification documentation

  • Certificates of Compliance from Hive manufacturers, tracing materials back to their original source. These would also need to confirm to Hive QA programs and traceable Hive-wide standards, where applicable.

  • Indexed and catalogued maintenance work orders

  • Legacy documentation from previous species who were assimilated

  • Indexing and cataloguing newly encountered species' technology and uploading it to the database

Also the eye would be Augmented Reality so the drone can tell exactly what it is just by looking at it.

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[–] rekabis@programming.dev 79 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Cable management doesn’t matter if:

  1. You only care if it works
  2. You have the accumulated memories of trillions of prior drones, including the ones who built that mess in the first place, so you already know what each cable does and where it goes.
[–] wahming@monyet.cc 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I built the mess under my desk, that doesn't mean I know what the cables do any more.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

This dude just admitted he's not a superior species

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[–] toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 9 months ago

A starship would more similar to a mine than a server room. What if the hydraulics pipe is broken and needs replaced, but the electric line and compressed air hose are tangled around it? Even with perfect knowledge and memory it makes the repair last longer.

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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 62 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I dunno, I always thought it was meant to mimic organics.

"Cable management" inside the human body is horrendous. So it felt like in the mixing of machine and biology, the machines had to become more biological in the way they worked to function properly in tandem with the Borg biology.

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

That's exactly it. Cable management is a top-down design philosophy. The Borg are a collective that organically integrates biological, mechanical, electronic, and any other systems that they find useful--it's quite literally the polar opposite of a top-down design philosophy.

It would be more surprising if the Borg had tidy cable management, because that implies some hierarchy. Actually, the Borg cubes are a little out of place in that regard. Spheres or fractal-ish structures would make more sense.

[–] ApostleO@startrek.website 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Borg were scarier before the concept of the Queen.

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

I kind of forgot about the Queen.... Totally agree.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

At least some minerals cristalyze in cubic structures, so it's not farfetched that an spontaneous reaction results in a cube.

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That's probably it, but in my head they just assimilated too many people like me.

[–] oillut@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Plus when the cables get broken / damaged, the cube just fixes itself like a biological healing, there aren’t borg drones out working on the hull

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[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 60 points 9 months ago

It's for when they run out of regeneration alcoves

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not that they hadn't found a cure for bad cable management, it's that by the 24th century nobody would care.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

All those cables are exactly where they were supposed to be!

DO NOT TOUCH THEM!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Also, has anyone ever noticed that the Borg don't have printers?

Want to destroy the Borg ... just patch one 2000s era Epson Printer with a shitty software driver to one of their ships and watch all hell break loose

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Calm down there Satan

No species deserves to be genocided by faulty printer drivers

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Their cable management used to be fine.

The only answer is Borg enshittification.

Ah damn. They must have assimilated some publicly traded tech companies.

[–] Neon_Dystopia@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can excuse forced assimilation, but I draw the line at poor cable management.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You can excuse forced assimilation?

(I want you to know that I tried to add an image of Shirley reacting, but it failed 4x, so you'll have to use your imagination.)

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[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Anesthetics are irrelevant.

You will be assimilated. (and forced to wire things as directly as possible because that is more efficient as long as it doesn't hinder future endeavors)

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean "aesthetics?" Or is spelling also irrelevant?

[–] Confuzzeled@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Perhaps the borg are savagely 'plugging' things into various orifices sans anaesthetic. They truly are evil.

[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's for dramatic effect

They're such Drama Queens smh

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They must have assimilated some theater techs.

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[–] Stamets@startrek.website 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As someone who just had to set up a distiller and deal with my cables, I do not appreciate this call out. Also can you remove your spy cameras please?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, you're getting very good ratings on Borg TV

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Aww this made me check and there is no /cablegore on Lemmy yet 😕

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago
[–] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago

When your mind has the power of the Borg collective, you don’t need silly inefficient structures to make it easier for the human mind to handle.

Neither spaghetti cables or spaghetti code are a hindrance when there is brutal efficiency to be had.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They didn't assimilate any computer nerds yet. They seem to only go for hot women.

[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I object to the assertion that the intersection of the sets “computer nerds” and “hot women” is the empty set.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Why do they have cables at all? The individual borglings seem to be able to talk to the borg mind without any cables.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's the WiFi, you STILL gotta have a cable or three somewhere.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Whenever those cables get broken in the show they have steam, water or green fire coming out of them. So these must be their liquid cooling hoses.

[–] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

No matter what companies will tell you, cables is always faster and more efficient than wireless, there's physical reasons foe that. Drones are linked to others and to cubes wirelessly because they need to do stuff and move around. Vessels are linked wirelessly with each other for obvious reasons. But there is likely an elabration center in each vessel and it's going to be cabled to every alcove and every sensor and actuator of the ship

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

If it ain't broke, don't adapt it.

The Borg are played up to be this hyper-advanced ruthlessly efficient hive mind, but they nearly never act like it. Case in point: Seven of Nine has two tits and one eye.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 9 months ago

That's a pretty realistic depiction of every server room I've ever been in.

[–] jerome@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

Maybe they're just a bunch of sexy snakes.

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