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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 85 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I actually switched to chrome many years ago because firefox was abusing system resources and chrome was much lighter.

[–] Instigate@aussie.zone 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I did the same! I’m now given to understand that that was Google’s goal with Chrome - make the easiest-to-use and most lightweight browser to bring everyone in, then ramp up the trackers and bloat. I think I need to export my bookmarks and look into Firefox again…

[–] GodsKillerKirb@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

You Should. Firefox has gotten so much Better. Not to mention all the literal BULLSHIT Google has done and will be doing with their browser.

The way Chrome works now, every tab is its own instance. Firefox, each window is its own instance.

[–] Goo_bubbs@lemmings.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I use Firefox, TOR, and even Edge sometimes these days for its nifty "Drop" feature. You'll never catch me using Chrome.

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[–] 567PrimeMover@kbin.social 81 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact: It's a much simpler job to guide a vehicle to a planetary body than it is to render a webpage with a flat theme.

Source: It came to me in a dream

[–] GuybrushThreepwo0d@programming.dev 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well... You need like what, 3 floats for position and 4 more for orientation. Multiply that by 3 to get velocity and acceleration values. Then I don't know a few more floats per sensor and you have your whole state space in a few bytes.

Meanwhile a single image is like a megabyte so yeah.

Source: it's past midnight and I should have gone to sleep ages ago

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And don't forget about redundancies

The programming for the Apollo program was hand woven so comparing it to modern systems is kinda like comparing apples to oranges

Honestly the computers for the Apollo program were amazing and I highly recommend looking into the whole thing more, it's so incredibly cool

[–] Zellith@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

People also forget that most of the actual calculations were done on paper first; the computers were basically just executing precalculated instructions.

 

This is the stack of code used for the navigation software for the Apollo program.

 

(Fun fact: standing next to it is Margaret Hamilton, director of NASA's Software Engineering Division & the lead of the team who wrote that code.)

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Additional fun fact: Margaret Hamilton is the person who coined the term "software engineering"

Ooh, I didn't know that. That is a fun fact! 😁

[–] Quereller@lemmy.one 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

These are multiple printouts of the code. The computer did not only execute precalculated instruction. (This would be a sequencer BTW.). Try it yourself AGC.

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Some people still don't seem to comprehend the difference between an embedded system and a general purpose computer.

[–] spiderplant@lemm.ee 29 points 11 months ago (6 children)

We've had general purpose computers for decades but every year the hardware requirements for general purpose operating systems keep increasing. I personally don't think there has been a massive spike in productivity using a computer between when PCs usually had 256-512mb to now where you need at least 8gb to have a decent experience. What has changed are growing protocol specs that are now a bloated mess, poorly optimised programs and bad design decisions.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Ya know I thought those were the pillarmen menacing symbols(I dont know japanese scripts), and ya know what it fits.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I personally don’t think there has been a massive spike in productivity using a computer between when PCs usually had 256-512mb to now

For general use/day to day stuff like web browsing, sure, I agree, but what about things like productivity and content creation? Imagine throwing a 4K video at a machine with 512 MiB RAM - it would probably have troubles even playing it, let alone editing/processing.

[–] spiderplant@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your original comment mentioned general purpose computers. Video production definitely isn't general purpose.

What do you mean by productivity?

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Video production is something you can do on a general purpose computer because it runs a flexible OS that allows for a wide range of use cases. As opposed to a purpose built embedded system that only performs the tasks for which it was designed. Hence, not general purpose. I believe this was their point anyway, not just like a computer for office work or whatever.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Yup, exactly this.

Video production is general purpose computing just like opening a web browser to look at pictures of cats is - it's just that the former is way more resource intensive; it is done in software that runs on an OS that can run a dozen other things which in turn runs on a CPU that can usually run other OSes - as opposed to a purpose built system meant to do very specific things with software often written specifically for it.

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[–] MxM111@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like to have more than one tab opened on my browser.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 11 months ago

Apollo 11 never had to deal with 47 different tracking cookies.

[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"we put Kanto and johto on a single cartridge"

[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 28 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but they were reusing tilesets an-

*looks at modern pokemon*

Uh. You know what, you have a point.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

It took till Scarlet and Violet for us to get more than one region in a game

Kitikami and Unova

That's parhetic

[–] SternburgExport@feddit.de 26 points 11 months ago

That's true I guess. But it probably helped that they had a big fucking rocket to get there.

[–] N00b22@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Meanwhile I have 16 GBs, and I feel that I should update to 32...

[–] dindresto@lemmy.korz.dev 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I upgraded to 64gb last week

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Did it work? I struggle with 32 sometimes, but I am blaming it on the software

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[–] Goo_bubbs@lemmings.world 7 points 11 months ago

You don't think you'll ever really use all 32GB at the same time until you're running a virtual machine or two and open task manager to see that you're consistently using over 82% of your RAM, which happened to me today.

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[–] chaosppe@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

4kb plus literal rocket scientists. On the other side of it you have 8gbs and my dumb ass

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Isn't there some computer science hypothesis (or whatever) about how the more complex computers get the more inefficient they must get as well?

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the average PC probably has 5 separate installations of Chrome, for different apps

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuck electron, all my homies hate electron

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Here here. Cool username btw.

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[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's why you should download more RAM.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 8 points 11 months ago

No no no, you need to upload RAM. Just make more swap partitions with Google Drive and a gigabit internet connection... Totally will work...

[–] Gruntyfish@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Hey, I'd like to see the rocket load an entire redux store into local storage!

[–] Quereller@lemmy.one 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

They even had some hand-braided ram or whatever for systems that abso-fucking-luteley must not fail

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[–] mac12m99@feddit.it 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Knusper@feddit.de 13 points 11 months ago

Unused RAM practically does not exist. The OS will use it for disk caching.

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