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[–] gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works 261 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

It's not healthy, but it's cheap: a hamburger at McDonald's — €1.40, if I buy fries with it, €3.50.

3.50€ for a meal isn't cheap and nothing a poor person can afford on a regular basis. I can cook a great meal for under 2€ that doesn't consist of trash. What a detached asshole.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 94 points 1 year ago

McDonald's is not cheap food, it's fast food. I don't expect this cunt to know the difference.

[–] krey@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, even though fast food is often looked down upon, it's actually a luxury food. I enjoy fast food about 3 times per week and it costs almost as much as all other groceries summed up. If i had to cut costs, this would be the first thing i'd cut. I would eat rice, legumes and tomato sauce instead (maybe with toppings like canned fish or tofu) would easily save me >50€ per week. You can buy cheap high quality rice in huge sacks (often with zippers on top) to save even more.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The 1,40 burgers are barely enough to satiate a child, even with fries.

A menu that can fill an adult, that's 13-14€ easily. And that's still just one meal.

The quality 3 meals a day I consume and make at home average 5€ per portion. resulting in 450€ food budget per person per month, I generally go for white label products if the quality is good enough.

That's 900€ a month for 2 people for food alone (this was 300ish before COVID).
850-1000€ for entry level 1 bedroom rent here, brings us to 1750-1900€ a month for a roof and food, another 75-100 for electricity (and then you have to be very usage conscious) brings us to 1825-2000€ a month, add required insurance (fire/health/accidents) for another 50-100€ brings us to 1875-2100€ a month.

Now, a phone and internet sub are pretty much a requirement these days, so say the cost of a cheap phone, internet and gsm abbo combine to be another 50€ a month per person.

So we're at 1975-2200€ a month to cover the very basic living expenses for a 2 person household.

You'd need to have one person with a decent wage or two people working minimum wage to barely get by.

Any surprise or extra cost and you're in the red.

Eating McDonnalds to cover breakfast, lunch and dinner every day, you'd need over 2000€ for food alone.

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[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I don't know about Austria but here McDonald's ain't that cheap.

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Same in all Europe. Not cheap for the quality. Cooking at home the same burger is cheaper with better ingredients

[–] siberianlaika@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same here in Lithuania. McDonalds is way too expensive for people on a tight budget and what you get for the price is disappointing too. It's cheaper and more delicious to make some burgers at home (which aren't so dry that you must wash down every bite with a sip of Coke) or just to get a street kebab (which is slightly more expensive but actually fills you for the entire day and is full of meat and veggies).

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

That's not even enough to satiate you. For that you need to buy a menu which is about 10€ here in Germany. That's not cheap at all.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

If I could afford almost 4 quid per meal I'd be laughing! Think of all the nice food I could eat!

We grow all of our vegetables for most of the year. Potatoes, carrots, leeks, onions, tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce, beetroot, lots of berries for jams, etc etc. I don't know how we'd manage without that.

We live in the outskirts of a major city in England, not a stereotypically poor blackwater somewhere. This is how bad things are these days.

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[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago (6 children)

"So what does it mean that a child doesn't get a hot meal in Austria? Do you know what the cheapest hot meal in Austria is? It's not healthy, but it's cheap: a hamburger at McDonald's — €1.40, if I buy fries with it, €3.50. Now someone is seriously claiming that we live in a country where parents can't afford this meal for their child," he said.

"If I have too little money, I go to work more," he added in the video, which was filmed during a wine-and-cheese event near Salzburg — with no burgers in sight — his conservative People's Party confirmed to Plus24.

i hope he chokes to death on a piece of rotten cheese in his wine cave

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Even disregarding this being a horrible choice for your child's nutrition that's a pretty bad deal, you could get much more food by buying cheap brands in the supermarket.

This guy is amazingly out of touch, normally conservative EU politicians have the sense to refrain from such statements even if probably most of them believe the same.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lol, in my experience French conservative politicians are equally out of touch. They're bourgeois fucks, they have no idea what a bus ticket costs. See this compilation from a few years ago

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/politique/pain-au-chocolat-a-10-centimes-ticket-de-metro-a-4-euros-quand-les-politiques-vivent-dans-un-autre-monde_1887529.html

They live on another plane of existence, they can't do anything themselves so it's not surprising they don't know the price of things

[–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

'It's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, $10?'

Or even better:

C.J.: It's not that I wanna don a shroud, I just think the Polly-Anna act's not wearing well. Sir, I'm worried that at some point avoidance starts to look like maybe we just haven't noticed. We run the risk of appearing out of touch, like one of those President's who doesn't know the price of milk. Sir, do you know the price of milk?
BARTLET: Not precisely.
C.J.: Neither do I. Do any of us?

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[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

€3.50 every day would be €108.50 per month for a single person eating a single meal per day

that's way more than i spend at the supermarket and i eat two meals per day that are way more filling and actually healthy lmao

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[–] starrox@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody in our country voted for that tone deaf asshole either. He was just "stepped in" as an interim after our prior catastrophe of a chancellor stepped down (Sebastian Kurz - He also made it to international media for his corruption).

Before representing our country as chancellor, this piece of shit was minister of the interior. - while being in this position he was just as useless as now. Words cannot describe how much I loathe this guy.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

I personally couldnt care less if he was leading the party at the last elections or not. Nehammer is prime ÖVP, his politics is a perfect example of what you get when you vote for this party.

[–] iByteABit@lemm.ee 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you enjoying your capitalism?

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[–] s20@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did they go looking doe the most smug, I'm-an-asshole expression possible for that guy, or does he just look like that?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] P1r4nha@feddit.de 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Idiot. That's neither healthy nor sustainable. What's his vision for his country?

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bleeding it dry? There was a thread in Mastodon recently proving there's a massive supermarket cartel driving prices in Austria higher than in surrounding countries and the government took the side of the supermarkets.

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[–] Microw@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The vision of his party is to keep everything the same, they're conservatives

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[–] artaxthehappyhorse@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 year ago

What on earth happened to all the small businesses in my "poor" rural village? Oh right, that pedestrian unfriendly stroad next to the freeway with the Walmart and all the fast food restaurants sucking up the village's life force happened.

[–] johnbrownwasright@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Who tf can afford to eat at McDonalds, have you seen their prices lately?

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

His opinion used to be much more widespread 10 or 15 years ago. Now poor people can't even eat fast food without being judged for wasting money.

He's not just a capitalist pig, he's an out of touch capitalist pig.

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 year ago

"Communism is when no food"

Capitalism:

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

mcdonalds is not cheap though

[–] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fast food is now treated as a "expensive night out" for us. It's like $30 for standard cost.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Crazy how fucked the economy has gotten pretty much everywhere lol

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

grillman: "But look at the SHAREHOLDER VALUE!"

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His face is so incredibly punchable

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[–] ComRed2@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is another way to tell people to go kill themselves.

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[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not sure how things are in Austria but where I live fast food is really expensive for someone strapped for cash

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Low-income families should eat long pig taken from the rich.

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[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is McDonald's cheap anywhere other than the US? In the US, there's a bunch of promotions that drive costs way down...

[–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yeah, I always heard in my youth that McDonald's is the poor's restaurant (in the US at least). However it was never really the case e.g. in Hungary. It was always average priced at best. You can eat far better for far less in every moderate-sized town.

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Jesus. Throw that bad nutrition at them. Go on.

[–] OlReliable_@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing new for Austria. Lived there for 30+ years, it's downhill and corruption all the way.

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[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

I mean it's one Big Mac, Michael, how much could it cost? Ten dollars? how-much-could-it-cost

[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Not cheap at all. And really bad for health, so doubly costly.

[–] NotErisma@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I hate that ghouls like this are allowed to walk freely and live comfortable lives....

That's all I have to say on this matter.

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[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I propose that we should eat this austrian chancellor instead. sans-shrug

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

we may have to start making excuses for the lack of terror

[–] not_gsa@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago

McDonald's is also more expensive than the grocery store which is the logical fallacy in his callous statement.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this line of thinking has never backfired on aristocrats before, and certainly not Austrian aristocrats specifically

Death to America

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