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“Whether you like it, or not, history is on our side. We will bury you,” he said quoting former USSR leader Nikita Khrushchev.

Russian politician Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday Russia could have a right to go to war with NATO.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago

Good news then: If you go to war with one NATO member you get war with the rest of them absolutely free!

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can’t even take on Ukraine, you want to come at every other western country? Lol

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Russia is the irritating kid down the street who just broke his nerf gun so he's threatening to throw the darts at you instead and tell his mom you're not invited to his birthday party...

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maxim Katz has explained that these kinds of deranged declarations are not directed at us. They are a kind of symbolic self-humiliation of Medvedev to prove to Putin that he is still loyal. It's "look I am willing to appear so wretched and ridiculous to the foreigners, I could not possibly be a threat to you, I am not some kind of alternative that could replace you, I am such a silly man, please don't throw me out of a window".

[–] Epilektoi_Hoplitai@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

Speculation runs that Dimi has been told by the Tsar that if he acts like the tough guy he isn't with enough bravado, he'll be allowed to sit in the big boys' chair and pretend to be president again.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Whether you like it, or not, history is on our side. We will bury you

Because we all know the Soviet Union and Russia are exactly the same thing and the Russian military is definitely as powerful and as capable as the Soviet Union, no doubt. Please pay no attention to the complete lack of victory in Ukraine.

[–] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

War has fuck-all to do with rights. If you're going to attack a NATO country we will beat your ass back into the stone age without mercy, your nukes won't save you if you dare cross that line.

[–] squidman@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

But do they have the ability to war? 🤔

[–] carlosfm@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

The second greatest army in Ukraine wants to mess with Nato? LOL

[–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They can't even fight a small country like Ukraine and they want to test the might of a fully armed and optional ~~Battlestaion~~ NATO alliance? Do they believe that anyone really believes them?

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ukraine is no small country, either in terms of area or population.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

A right to war? Are you fucking high?

[–] straycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

History's on their side? Boy do I have news for him...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Well, recent history involves a lot of wars kicking Russians ass. Afghanistan, Chechnya, Ukraine...

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I mean... he's not wrong? They could have a war with NATO any time they wanted it. Russia could have war with NATO whenever they want it. They've been very careful to not actually DO that, of course. Last thing they need is to start losing another one with someone who won't have any difficulty in bringing the full conflict right to them.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Well, yeah. Everyone has the right to make bad decisions

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?” - Mr. Blonde.

[–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 4 points 1 year ago

"Mister Krushchev said, "We will bury you" I don't subscribe to this point of view It'd be such an ignorant thing to do If the Russians love their children too"

-Sting

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So has Denmark.

Though it would be funny ig Russia didn't. Imagine Putin declaring war on Poland and Poland just saying "no, it's against the law."

[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Being invaded? Just say no - they legally cannot take your territory without your consent.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will be special special operation.

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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

A house cat has the right to attack a lion as well...

[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean... I can't see any issue with NATO not stopping Ukraine from invading its own territory... the territory the UN recognizes as part of Ukraine... and which Russia signed three separate treaties promising to respect as part of Ukraine.

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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

... I mean, ok?

Come get some.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh don't bother. Medvedev is a joke. Always has been. I tell you this as a Russian.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You know, it makes me wonder if we'd even need troops in the conflict zone. We probably can use drones and satellite to find the enemy, then use drones to elimate them. It's not asymmetrical warfare like Afghanistan or Iraq.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Mate, you can't even win against a non-NATO country, that happens to be the poorest in Europe.

But sure, you have the right to have a war with everyone. Even if we all know you can't.

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

🎶Dumb ways to die 🎶

[–] umbraroze@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Freedom of ~~Speech~~ War doesn't mean Freedom from Consequences!

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Krushchev is an interesting person to quote here. Wasn't he stripped of power by an empire that would utterly collapse within 20 years of his death?

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has everyone in Russia forgotten about mutual assured destruction? Or are they old and susceptible to COVID and just plan to take everyone else with them?

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Surely they're not insane enough to think they could win at sea or land against multiple first world nations.

[–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Sure. And the mouse has the right to war with the elephant. But it's not a very clever thing to do.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Nobody is stopping them from exercising that right against any NATO country. What about Poland? They have been a historical nuisance, Dimi. Just shoot a rocket at a farm somewhere, but make it intentional this time.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Given how reliable their "advanced weaponry" has been in Ukraine, I expect many of their nucks are non functional so if they go to war, Russia will become a giant radioactive hole while the rest of the world will escape annihilation. Can somebody please just take out Putin FFS?

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

And not even 15 years ago this russkie was hailed as the dovish counterpart to Putler.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Ha! Your mouth is writing checks your ass can't cash.

I wish a motherfucker would tho.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Just claiming you have the right doesn't mean you actually have the right. Ask January 6 trumpers for more information on that subject.

On another point: just because you can doesn't mean you should. You can kick a Lion in the balls but that doesn't make it a great idea.

Then again, I'm sure Russia's leadership knows this and right now is just posing like an 8th grader bragging about his uncle being a navy seal because holy shit, Russia is fuuuuuuucked.

For the next decades it will be busy pulling itself together, trying to rebuild an international economy that doesn't rely 100% on unsustainable practices of just selling all it's minerals, getting rid of the reputation that Putin gave it, trying to rebuild a military that isn't the laughing stock of the world... And all that is assuming that the country doesn't fall apart, doesn't dove into civil war and that say, china doesn't decide it likes the taste ofmsome of the pieces that are left.

Russia is fubar

This guy called it a war! To prison with him!

So Dmitry. Found something to say from the bottom of the bottle again, eh?

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

i dont think putin could window his way out of that loss if it where to ever happen

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

He knows Glasgow is part of NATO, right? No-one sane is offering that lot outside.

[–] WtfEvenIsExistence@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

You won't, fucking cunt.

Try it and your regime gets obliterated.

[–] ladananton450@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I'd like to see you do that, mr. Medvedev.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

LOL. Each and every NATO country has the right to trigger Article 5 too, ya dolt.

He's saying this because Russia is scraping bottom right now. The ruble is sinking like a rock, inflation is rising, all the youths of conscriptable age have either fled or are in hiding, the people in Moscow are starting to wake up to a taste of the war they thought Ukraine could take but never return to them, Putin has Dumb and Dumber in charge of his military operation, he can't turn the keys on his own nukes lest they blow up before they leave the pads, Poland and the Baltic states are telling his puppet Lukashenko to get the ol' Wagner troops the fuck off their borders or they'll expand his war for him, and to top it all off he just killed the best military leader and friend he ever had.

Meanwhile, Ukraine fights with every scrap of strength, courage, determination, and western hardware it can find while the world cheers on.

Revelation 9:6? Really? “And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.” Sounds like Putin himself right now as the walls close in and Ukraine pushes back, not the west.

Threats are all they have now. Good luck with that Special Loser Operation, asshole. Слава Україні!

EDITED TO ADD Hundreds of Russian soldiers are going AWOL and refusing to fight as morale plummets, UK intelligence says

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