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When special counsel Jack Smith criminally charged Donald Trump this month for attempting to overturn the 2020 election, the indictment referenced six unnamed co-conspirators—five of whom are identifiable—who aided the ex-president’s plot to stay in power, i.e. break the law. Why Smith chose not to charge these individuals is unclear; while it’s possible that the prosecutor only targeted Trump to expedite the case, it’s also plausible that he did so as part of a strategy to get them to cooperate and become government witnesses against the former guy. And according to a new report, it seems like at least some of these people might be willing to talk to save themselves.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Will"? How exactly does he think they ended up unindicted in the first place?

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

I know, right? The “unindicted” in unindicted co-conspirators translates to “cooperating with the prosecution” co-conspirators. 

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh, I can't wait for the next season of "I barely know them, never really talked to them" !

I hope it has a better end than the last one though.

[–] Ducks@ducks.dev 6 points 1 year ago

It'll be an interesting tactic when he tries it on members of his family

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I, for one, am excited for the new seasons of "I cannot recall" and "I plead the fifth"

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Oh it's blatantly obvious that 2 or 3 have already flipped. One is definitely part of his inner circle. Also, with some names that should be in these indictments conspicuously not on them, there are a few people in his direct family working with DAs. My money's on Jared and Ivanka.

[–] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't been following this super closely; care to share the other indicators of people flipping?

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh that's going to be a very tightly kept secret until they back Trump into a corner. It's all educated guesses. If I had to bet money, outer circle person would be Sidney Powell. Inner circle? Rudy Giuliani has always been rat so him jumping ship is 100% on his character.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Powell and Giuliani are both indicted in GA. Being said, it both makes sense for them to do and would be wildly entertaining to watch, so here's hoping 🤞 🤞 🤞

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Can you please provide evidence of this? Links? I've been following these indictments and, while I don't have reason to believe otherwise, I haven't seen evidence that anyone is already talking.

[–] mr_jawa@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Who would have guessed that the party of selfishness and dishonesty would stab each other in the back.

[–] Boddhisatva@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

I can't tell who are scorpions and who are frogs, but I'm looking forward to watching them all drowning in the river.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He’s wrong though.

They already have. Or did he think they got away with it?

[–] whatisallthis@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Trump fears the people around him will tell the truth when asked questions

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have why do you think they're unindicted?

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know this one! The answer is all of them. All co-conspirators would happily sell Trump down the river.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can see Ghouliani being dumb enough to stay loyal. Turning on Trump now won’t save him, anyway. 

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

But it's gonna make it all the more hilarious when Trump throws him under the bus.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

There's going to be a fight to see who can throw him under the bus first.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this and in the Georgia case there are enough co-conspirators who don't want to stay behind bars til they drop. Only one needs to sing the right tune, and loud enough to get a "get out of prison" card. The problem that Trump is only surrounded by weak yes-men is that they are weak.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

The Georgia indictment is amazing. Something like 19 people named, and like 30 unindicted coconspirators. There's no way there's not a good number of flips there.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Can’t wait to see this traitor shitcunt in cuffs & an orange jumpsuit.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

For a long time, Roy Cohn was 'The Guy' in New York City. You know, 'The Guy who knows So-and-so...' or 'The Guy who cam make a deal happen.' He mentored Trump and helped him get started. When Trump found out Chon had AIDS he dropped him.

Trump deserves to be shafted by his people.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

In reality, there is no honor amongst thieves.

[–] badaboomxx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't he do the same?

[–] unfnknblvbl@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Oh no, this is the worst thing ever!

...I'm almost out of popcorn!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump and "rational fear" are words I never thought I'd use together, but here we are!

If someone could avoid 5, 10, 20 years in prison by flipping, do you think they wouldn't?

Giuliani is, what? 79 years old? 5 years in prison would be enough to end him. He knows this.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I would turn on my boss to save myself 10 minutes of moderate inconvenience and my boss is actually rather a decent guy.

[–] exixx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I hope Ivanka flipped on him.

[–] lanbanger@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Fears they will? Of course they fucking will 🤣

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally everyone under criminal investigation fears this.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ted Kaczynski didn't fear that.. i mean, yeah he was schizo so he always feared that irrationally.. but he didn't have any friends who might turn on him.. he didn't repeatedly betray people close to him.. he hid in a shack.. Trump made exactly as many enemies as possible..

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is this relevant? Unibomber was a lone wolf that got turned in by his brother in law.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

it's relevant for the reasons you just stated.. he had no co-conspirators.. so he wasn't worried about them rolling over on him.. you understand, don't be dense..

Trump has lots of co-conspirators, because he did a lot of crimes with a lot of people

read it twice if you need to

[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] theodewere@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

i didn't ask

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My blocklist grows by one.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

don't give up on us baby.. well, it was special to me..

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The article says nothing about the title though..

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This is exactly the response I would expect from an innocent person.