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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 69 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

YES
END THE HYPOCRISY
👏 FORCE
👏 MEN
👏 TO
👏 WEAR
👏 SHIRTS!

^^^apologies, i should have appended an '/s'^^^

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Heck nah, free the tiddy. I'm transitioning and I wanna be able to show off what I've grown when I'm able haha

Also just like, can we all stop making everything sexual and let peoples bodies exist. Instead of hiding everything and making ourselves feel ashamed of our bodies

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Free them tiddies!

On a serious note, while I've always believed that boobs aren't inherently sexual, years of bathing people has extended that to all nudity.

Once you get used to seeing people naked all the time, nudity by itself ceases to be sexual. There has to be intent to the nudity to matter.

And it isn't like I didn't bathe attractive boobs and vag (that being what I'm attracted to personally, I'm not into guys), I did. Plenty of them, surprisingly, what with accidents and illnesses being involved (you'd think that illness and injury would reduce the attractiveness overall, what with part of attractiveness being signs of health). Even in nursing homes, there were enough attractive bodies that most people would be surprised.

But it wasn't sexual at all. Well, not for me anyway, some of the patients had moments.

It's just skin.

The flip side of that is that after a while, I just got annoyed at people doing the usual "old people gross" bullshit. No, they aren't, they're just old. Age, disability, none of it makes someone's body unpleasant inherently. Tbh, there's beauty in all of it after I got past the initial dissonance with nudity in general. That "I'm not supposed to be seeing this" that we get drilled into us.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

I always look at it this way.... being into feet is one of the most common paraphilias(other than breasts) that people can have.

If folks into feet can control themselves in summertime when barefeet and sandals are common, then people into boobs can control themselves when they see female nipples out.

I also agree that we need to desexualize the nude human body outside of sexual contexts. I went to a classical art school where we would draw from live nude models for 8 hours a day.

How quickly you get used to nude bodies is kind of impressive, and the men in class didn't turn into sex crazed animals when we had nude female models. The folks into penises didn't become possessed with lust over the nude male models. Everything went professionally as it should. So people can in fact handle nude bodies with maturity when they want to.

Its just most people dont want to... for some reason.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If a trans person lives somewhere they legally cannot change their gender, does that mean they can legally go topless in a state where its illegal to bare breasts, because the State still recognizes them as men?

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 8 points 4 days ago

You'd likely be labeled a fetishist and thus arrested for acting lewd in public.

[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For real. I hate seeing dudes with their shirts off jogging down my block. Like, fuck off attention seeker. If your shirt makes you hotter to the point where it interferes with your exercising, you're wearing the wrong item of clothing. Attention seeking and ill prepared.

[–] kaklerbitmap@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Im sure some people are attention seeking to some degree but most people i know who go on neighborhood runs are just out doing their own thing and if anything are overly self conscious about showing off their bodies. I overheat incredibly quickly when I go for runs, and I frequently have to peel off my top layer and I'm still soaked. I can't imagine I'm the only one. And I absolutely hate having any attention drawn to myself. Judgment from other people when I'm just out trying to get in a nice run outdoors sucks.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (3 children)

No way am I going swimming like JD Vance.

[–] ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

NGL, swimming with a shirt on is dope, no sunburn, im happy to admit im weird

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Plus you can pull the neck of it up around your mouth, draw the neck hole tight enough to form a loose seal, and exhale into it to inflate it like a balloon :D and then your voice sounds neat and echoey in it! Wet fabric is not as permeable to air so it will actually stop it from escaping too fast.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] jecht360@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Exactly this. I don't like Vance, but I can't blame him for wearing a shirt while swimming. Sun shirts are way better than applying sunscreen every so often.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

He's a nevernude.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

I mean.....I have self body issues. I wear a hoodie in the summer when it's nearly 100F.

But I was thinking we go the other way on this. Ladies, just because I'M ashamed of my body, and cover up, doesn't mean YOU need to! Let the girls get some air!