this post was submitted on 25 Oct 2023
323 points (92.2% liked)

Ask Lemmy

26851 readers
2258 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions

Please don't post about US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

So far my list includes Comcast, EA, and Nestle. Tell me yours, and I'll help out.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Amazon, SpaceX, TwitterX, TeslaX, Uber, Nestlé, Google, Micro$oft

[–] pensa@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Why SpaceX? I hate Musk and do not support any of his other... anythings. However, rocket go zoom then land without boom is fun to watch. I am genuinely curious why SpaceX is bad.

I completely agree about everything else you mentioned.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However, rocket go zoom then land without boom is fun to watch.

Yeah, Musk is a true innovater by having them blow up the concrete launchpad on launch instead...

The government got more money from the patents NASA got then it cost to fund NASA. Privatizing space hurts everyone except the rich asshole who gets the parents.

[–] pensa@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

For fucks sake.

I clearly said I do not like musk. I even went as far as saying I hate him but still that's the first place you went. What the fuck?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, but there's also the cognitive dissonance of you saying SpaceX is fun because they don't explode...

But they do explode. Waaaaay more than NASA. Because if a NASA launch goes bad, everyone pays attention. If SpaceX goes bad, people just shrug

So by your own metrics you just said...

NASA is better than SpaceX.

No matter what position I took, it would have disagreed with your comment, because your comment disagrees with itself. Which explains why you think spacex is a positive.

[–] pensa@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I did not say NASA was better than SpaceX. You are putting words in my mouth. Don't do that.

Here is a link to a comment that discusses exactly what you are saying, and it was posted before your comment. So maybe read first then comment.
https://kbin.social/m/asklemmy@lemmy.world/t/568410/What-are-some-companies-that-deserve-to-be-boycotted-to#entry-comment-3161709

[–] Balex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SpaceX has only had 2 mission failures out of 274 total missions. Since 2017 SpaceX has had a 100% success rate which is a vast majority of its total missions. The recent explosions have been test rockets and expected to blow up, it's how they learn and innovate so quickly. NASA takes billions of dollars and 10+ years to successfully launch a rocket on the first attempt. It's just 2 different approaches to design and innovation.

Nah dude. You don't understand. A guy we don't like is tangibly related to the space program. Fuck all them scientists and engineers. They're all evil. Every. Single. One of them.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

A minute and forty five seconds of hate isn’t gonna cut it today buddy

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

why SpaceX is bad.

For example they "decorated" our night sky with thousands of their satellites. Never asked permission. Astronomers around the globe are pissed because their work & results gets worse. Other people who own satellites are pissed because they don't behave up there.

[–] pensa@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

I have read about the interference with astronomy and am not for it. It didn't occur to me when I asked.

Thanks for answering my question.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Providing global Internet is worth it. That said, I'd much rather see it done in a non profit way, and definitely not under the muskrat's control.

[–] Traegs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Except the carbon footprint of Starlink is estimated to be 30x greater than terrestrial alternatives.

More than half of all satellites in space are already Starlink at around 5,000, with 12,000 planned in the near future and up to 42,000 as a later expansion.

It's just not sustainable.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I'd love to be able to get a usable terrestrial alternative at my place. Wonky 4G ain't it. 5G is years away, if it ever gets here. Fibre? Perish the thought.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They lost thousands of them and they actually don't know why.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

They’re a perfect platform for developing and testing anti-satellite missiles

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And is the carbon footprint of internet backbone a big problem?

[–] decivex@pawb.social -1 points 1 year ago

Do you understand the concept of cost vs benefit?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This thread is so full of people complaining about ISP monopolies too

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Providing global Internet is worth it

Who are you to judge that?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

On par with the rest of us? Who are you to question who someone else is to weigh in?

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Private companies have no business being in space. It sets a dangerous precedent for the future.

Any good publicity for SpaceX is ultimately good publicity for Musk, who's made himself the face of that company too.

[–] pensa@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thank you for being the only comment that is not simply "musk bad." I'm not being sarcastic. I seriously appreciate you answering my question.

You make a good point about private companies in space and I agree with it completely.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Really? We want all of the galaxy other than the surface of Earth to be the sole domain of government activity?

Armies marching on the moon, but never a McDonalds, because that would be horrible?

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Really? "Yeah, boycott that jerk!! But not the silly rockets, I like em!"

Uh, no. Just, no.

[–] hiremenot_recruiter@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Destroying environments? Wasting money and fuel on false-promises (the Elon way)? I'm sure there's a tonne of other reasons.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Name an environment destroyed by SpaceX

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Space. They're killing radio astronomy, endangering optical astronomy and threatening everything else in orbit, from telecoms, to earth observation, to the ISS.

They're also spreading rare earth metal everywhere when the satellites burn up and wasting a lot of energy to get them up there when we're facing an energy crisis.

[–] hiremenot_recruiter@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just one? I'll do you a few better...

  • The Falcon 9 rocket put a hole in the ionosphere

  • Serious damage at a Texas base (caused craters and debris to scatter around remote cameras)

  • An explosion on the launch pad during a test caused damage

  • Boca Chica...

    • Massive amounts of dust, which contain toxic shit
    • Destroyed the launchpad (scattering large chunks of concrete into delicate marine and coastal sanctuaries nearby)
  • Falcon 9 makes use of kerosene, which puts black soot into the atmosphere (if they used solely liquid oxygen or liquid hydrogen the only thing left would be water vapour)

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

TesLax, the luxury laxative for your wallet

[–] Hexagon@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget Netflix and Apple

[–] deus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'd rather boycott Disney and Amazon to death than Netflix.