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Why SpaceX? I hate Musk and do not support any of his other... anythings. However, rocket go zoom then land without boom is fun to watch. I am genuinely curious why SpaceX is bad.
I completely agree about everything else you mentioned.
Yeah, Musk is a true innovater by having them blow up the concrete launchpad on launch instead...
The government got more money from the patents NASA got then it cost to fund NASA. Privatizing space hurts everyone except the rich asshole who gets the parents.
For fucks sake.
I clearly said I do not like musk. I even went as far as saying I hate him but still that's the first place you went. What the fuck?
Yeah, but there's also the cognitive dissonance of you saying SpaceX is fun because they don't explode...
But they do explode. Waaaaay more than NASA. Because if a NASA launch goes bad, everyone pays attention. If SpaceX goes bad, people just shrug
So by your own metrics you just said...
NASA is better than SpaceX.
No matter what position I took, it would have disagreed with your comment, because your comment disagrees with itself. Which explains why you think spacex is a positive.
I did not say NASA was better than SpaceX. You are putting words in my mouth. Don't do that.
Here is a link to a comment that discusses exactly what you are saying, and it was posted before your comment. So maybe read first then comment.
https://kbin.social/m/asklemmy@lemmy.world/t/568410/What-are-some-companies-that-deserve-to-be-boycotted-to#entry-comment-3161709
SpaceX has only had 2 mission failures out of 274 total missions. Since 2017 SpaceX has had a 100% success rate which is a vast majority of its total missions. The recent explosions have been test rockets and expected to blow up, it's how they learn and innovate so quickly. NASA takes billions of dollars and 10+ years to successfully launch a rocket on the first attempt. It's just 2 different approaches to design and innovation.
Nah dude. You don't understand. A guy we don't like is tangibly related to the space program. Fuck all them scientists and engineers. They're all evil. Every. Single. One of them.
Personal insults and incorrectly using "big words"...
For some reason the people who defend Musk and his companies love doing that.
Does it work on 4chan? Is that where you all get this from?
Could you please tell me what "big words" they used? I don't see anything outside normal vocabulary.
Hopefully you don't take this as me defending musk in some way.
A minute and forty five seconds of hate isn’t gonna cut it today buddy
For example they "decorated" our night sky with thousands of their satellites. Never asked permission. Astronomers around the globe are pissed because their work & results gets worse. Other people who own satellites are pissed because they don't behave up there.
I have read about the interference with astronomy and am not for it. It didn't occur to me when I asked.
Thanks for answering my question.
Providing global Internet is worth it. That said, I'd much rather see it done in a non profit way, and definitely not under the muskrat's control.
Except the carbon footprint of Starlink is estimated to be 30x greater than terrestrial alternatives.
More than half of all satellites in space are already Starlink at around 5,000, with 12,000 planned in the near future and up to 42,000 as a later expansion.
It's just not sustainable.
I'd love to be able to get a usable terrestrial alternative at my place. Wonky 4G ain't it. 5G is years away, if it ever gets here. Fibre? Perish the thought.
And is the carbon footprint of internet backbone a big problem?
Do you understand the concept of cost vs benefit?
They lost thousands of them and they actually don't know why.
They’re a perfect platform for developing and testing anti-satellite missiles
This thread is so full of people complaining about ISP monopolies too
Who are you to judge that?
On par with the rest of us? Who are you to question who someone else is to weigh in?
Private companies have no business being in space. It sets a dangerous precedent for the future.
Any good publicity for SpaceX is ultimately good publicity for Musk, who's made himself the face of that company too.
Thank you for being the only comment that is not simply "musk bad." I'm not being sarcastic. I seriously appreciate you answering my question.
You make a good point about private companies in space and I agree with it completely.
Really? We want all of the galaxy other than the surface of Earth to be the sole domain of government activity?
Armies marching on the moon, but never a McDonalds, because that would be horrible?
Really? "Yeah, boycott that jerk!! But not the silly rockets, I like em!"
Uh, no. Just, no.
Destroying environments? Wasting money and fuel on false-promises (the Elon way)? I'm sure there's a tonne of other reasons.
Name an environment destroyed by SpaceX
Space. They're killing radio astronomy, endangering optical astronomy and threatening everything else in orbit, from telecoms, to earth observation, to the ISS.
They're also spreading rare earth metal everywhere when the satellites burn up and wasting a lot of energy to get them up there when we're facing an energy crisis.
Just one? I'll do you a few better...
The Falcon 9 rocket put a hole in the ionosphere
Serious damage at a Texas base (caused craters and debris to scatter around remote cameras)
An explosion on the launch pad during a test caused damage
Boca Chica...
Falcon 9 makes use of kerosene, which puts black soot into the atmosphere (if they used solely liquid oxygen or liquid hydrogen the only thing left would be water vapour)
Because Musk is a vocal ass and so many on Lemmy can't distinguish the good some of his companies do from the jerkoff owner.
Nestle does evil and is run by evil. Tesla is pushing the automobile industry in the direction it needs to go, but it is majority owned by evil. It's not as simple as a keyboard activist response, so I'm looking forward to the downvotes as I point this out again.
Good luck ever trying to defend Tesla and Space X on Lemmy.
Why would you want to defend those companies? Literally what the fuck good do you think they're doing? How does it outweigh the huge government subsidies they take away from non-garbage companies that could do the same things but without being as awful?
SpaceX brought internet to the world as well as Ukraine when they needed it
This directly contradicts what you claim. https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/09/14/musk-internet-access-crimea-ukraine/
When they were new and people still believed their promises, they could push the real car makers.
For a while. Long ago.
Nowadays everybody learns how bad these cars really are and how shitty this company acts to their customers after the warranty.
Oh my fucking god. I am not defending shit.
I asked a fucking question and the only answer I got was "musk bad." I posted very clear qualifiers in the original comment and every other comment stating exactly that but somehow a whole bunch of y'all completely ignore that, repeatedly. It's a critical bit of context that completely negates any defenses of any thing.
Then you go on to mention Tesla which was not mentioned in the comment you replied to. So it's obvious you're reading what's written throughout the comments. It also makes obvious that you're only picking out the parts you want. I never, not once, in any way defended Tesla.
I DON'T SUPPORT MUSK. I DID NOT DEFEND SPACEX OR TESLA. How else can I make it clear? What the fuck is going on with people missing the key bit of context?
I asked a question about SpaceX and someone else mentions Tesla. Somehow a bunch of you fuckers read it as I'm defending both SpaceX and Tesla.
Fucking fuck!