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Algorithms that try to suggest me content are universally bad, and all searches should provide results based solely on the terms, syntax, and language entered. Same with anything that tries to provide me content based on data harvested about my location or demographic.
All the content on my feed should come from unpersonalized suggestions, or the communities i choose to follow. π
I like that Lemmy and Masto donβt have those fucking algorithms. Itβs a relief.
What is your opinion on Bluesky? Their default feed is chronological, but they do have algorithms. They're actually moving towards custom algorithms, so you can build your own or use someone else's, delete, pin, reorder them. It's like different feeds. I like that implementation personally.
I couldn't say, they're closed to new users. I've been on the wait list for a long time, but no joy.
I'm skeptical that it ultimately won't just turn into Twitter 2.0
Actually, the waitlist takes way too much time. I just went on Twitter and found a couple of people with invites. I don't have one yet, but would you want one when I do?
Sure, Iβll give it a go, thank you for thinking of me. The whole bullshit with Twitter and now Reddit has me feeling pretty burned on corporate-owned social media, so Iβm likely to stick with federated things like Masto, Lemmy, etc., but Iβll give it a go. I am curious about it. I wonder why theyβre leaning so hard on the waitlist thing? Theyβre losing precious adoption time, as people are right now wanting to move away from Twitter. Or rather, they have been wanting that for months, so there may already be a lot of lost opportunity re: user attention or interest.
I think it has its place but it should absolutely be optional. Yeah they suck but the YouTube algorithm is responsible for like 70% of my knowledge base.
I miss accidentally finding the most random stuff on YouTube way back before they started pushing monetized content, but it's been a very long time
I feel like algorithms when done well are amazing. Like, the YouTube Music algorithm is so great for music, I just start playing a song and it takes it from there. Unlike Spotify, which has gone downhill these days, I never feel the need to skip a song on YTM.
I used to be mad at algorythms suggesting things that is disliked. But then I realised that it would be rather scary if they were right.
The issue is that they rely on "related" content. I would much prefer an elimination system.
Never have I ever benefited from Google or Amazon or anyone changing my search string for me. Even if I do misspell something, I'm gonna click on the "did you mean x instead?" link myself, because I don't trust the 50/50 mixed results anyway. But 90% of the time I'm gonna be immediately scrambling to put the double quotes back in, which it's also gonna ignore half the time.
Hard agree. Sometimes I'm searching for something very specific and esoteric, and the results spam me with unrelated nonsense because the search engine thinks it knows better than I do
Some alternative frontends resolve this. Invidious for example is a youtube front end. There are public instances. Most popular sites have them.
Yes! I've started using Invidious more and more when I'm on PC, but there are also addons that make YouTube itself more tolerable.
I've been using LibreTube on my Android phone, and it's so much better.
Yeah.
Invidious is pretty good in android Firefox like when you "add to homescreen". The other browser add-ons won't avoid the algorithm I think?
I use newpipe. I found libretube seemed to stop working more than newpipe but maybe time for another look!
I was actually using newpipe + sponsorblock before switching to Libretube. There's only been once that I've had to manually switch the piped instance so far, but I just prefer Libretube's UI. Newpipe worked great, too. Both very good apps. You can't go wrong with either imo