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I was reading a book on social life of the upper-middle class and new rich of the American 1920s and realized so many things we now do proudly were considered socially taboo back then. This was especially the case for clothing, makeup, women in certain public spaces, etc. What do you think will be different in the 2120s? Or maybe even the next 50 years?

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[–] stephfinitely@artemis.camp 116 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wearing clothes of the opposite gender.

[–] FlyboyM@lemmy.fmhy.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can see this happening in the future

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Time begins and then time ends. And then time begins once again.

It is happening now, it has happened before, it will surely happen again.

[–] LegendofDragoon@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.

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[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 18 points 1 year ago

Hopefully people's weird hang up about gender all together won't be around in 100 years.

[–] mestari@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just can't believe you could wear a flowy floral print summer dress and be considered a dependable guy by everyone. Some cultures put such an high effort to preserve their old ways that I can't see that going away in 100 years, or even 300 years. The rest of us unfortunately have to play by their rules and taboos.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Last year, my father called me up to tell me that he saw a guy wearing a dress. He was obviously looking for a "This is surely a sign of the end times" reply, but I just said "So?"

My father then asked me if I'd wear a dress. I replied "it's not for me, but I'm not going to judge someone who wants to wear one."

I can definitely see "guy wearing a dress" going from "this is horrible and the guy should be arrested for such indecency" (what might have happened 100 years ago) to "whatever" in 100 years given how attitudes changed between my father's generation (Boomer) and mine (GenX).

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[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Being topless regardless of gender in public during hot days.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not in the United States, not even in 100 years. Anywhere else: Maybe.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's already legal in several parts of the US

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Legal” is not “not tabood”.

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[–] Dark_Arc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly this can be taboo regardless of your gender

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[–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Prostitution and drugs being illegal.

I have a hard time seeing a proper utopia driven society penalizing these. Everyone should be able to fuck. Everyone should be able to put whatever they want in their bodies too. Dicks or drugs, doesn't matter.

[–] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Total agree with prostitution, Drugs on the other hand are tricky. I like Portugals approach. Decriminalize it for individuals, prosecute the distributors and get those addicted help to get off of it. Seems to work quite good for them.

[–] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Some drugs are fine, others not so much. And some people can form bad habits and dependencies on good drugs. Its a tricky situation all around. But yes, thats the best approach imho

[–] Konlanx@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

But I love drugs.

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[–] waterbogan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Prostitution is already legal in a number of countries, as is cannabis and some other drugs in some places eg Portugal

I'm in general agreement with you but would make an exception for some extremely high harm drugs such as meth

[–] Hunter2@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Drugs are not legal in Portugal. It's decriminalised up to small amounts (ie personal use), which is different.

My understanding is that:

If you get caught with a couple of joints (or any drugs), they are confiscated, you are identified and you might have to pay a fine, do community service or go to an addiction consultation.

If you're over that limit, but not overly, you get the above + go to court and will likely receive suspended sentence and will have a criminal record.

If you get caught with a truckload (obviously for distribution), if it's your first offence you'll likely also get suspended sentence, such is the state of our justice. If it's not your first offence, you'll likely do jail time.

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[–] CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I dunno about taboo, but I think there'll be a lot fewer "monosexual" (homo/hetero people) and a lot more bi/pan people. I think we're seeing an increase already in acceptance that most people have at least a few people of their non-preferred gender they're attracted to, and those kinds of mentalities will permeate to a mushy continuum of sexuality, rather than hard categories.

[–] BlackLodgeCooper@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is just a personal opinion but I suspect the trend is not linear. There will be a surge in acceptance and then possibly a calm in popularity. Social pressures aside, I feel there may be some portion of the world that is bi/pan but not in numbers so large that it would be a huge shift in current status quos. We're also at a time when mental health is seeing an identity crisis and we're trying to label every quirk. Gender identity almost seems like part of a shotgun approach to try and fix other issues.

I do not want to sound like I'm downplaying the importance of sexual orientation and gender identity, but there's just so much going on socially with how fast we're moving as a culture with the Internet that it's hard to predict what is real and what is trendy.

Of course I could be entirely wrong.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I think it's similar to what happened when left handedness was destigmatized. Suddenly, there was a sharp increase in the number of people saying they were lefties. It wasn't that more people were becoming lefties. It was that more people felt free to be who they really were.

A trans person 100 years ago couldn't really come out as trans. If they did, they'd likely face a violent response. So they lived their life in suffering - maybe not even knowing why they felt so different from everyone else and thinking that there was something wrong with them.

As being trans is destigmatized (and hopefully the anti-trans stuff recently is short lived), more and more people will "come out" as trans. It's not that the actual number of trans people is increasing, but that trans people don't feel like they have to hide who they are. Eventually, like lefties, the rate will level out and stabilize.

A hundred years from now, people will be referencing trans people instead of lefties when talking about the next marginalized group that's being destigmatized.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In a more general sense, this is leaving out people who want to try something different or people who are confused. They may or may not be bi/gay/trans or whatever, but the mental health damage is from being pigeonholed. Everyone should be able to try a few things without repercussions.

I don’t know if this is still true, but it seemed like a few years ago it was considered ok for women to “experiment”, but I don’t think it ever was for guys. They should all be able to figure things out without worrying about labels or face social pressure to be one thing or another

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope you’re right. When my kids started asking questions and wondering what they might be, my answer was that labels are just a convenience and you should never worry about fitting any one. Be yourself first, then decide out if there is a close enough label you want to use. This needs to be the fururey

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[–] chewbacastheory@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I certainly hope so. There's definitely a taboo that comes with bi and pan folks - at least what I've seen anyway. The idea that we must conform to either this or that is becoming more and more outdated. The pushback from certain groups however continue to be fierce.

[–] zerbey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is already rapidly becoming a thing, the younger generations are far more open about their sexuality than any that preceded them.

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[–] panda_paddle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wtf even is pan? Is it just bi + more horny? It seems redundant.

[–] CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I use bi personally, but pan people argue that they're more than two genders and they are attracted to all of them. I use bi because my sexuality is dualistic -- I have both heterosexual and homosexual attractions. The two are effectively synonymous.

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Drugs. The prohibition of psychedelic substances in particular is looking more like a crime against humanity since we are rediscovering their therapeutic properties in the west (that shaman have known for mellenia).

Discussion on the topic of mental health. Virtually nothing was known about mental health until very recently. We are the first generation that even talks about it. Therapy didn't exist in any practical and organised sense for my mother's generation. If you got PTSD during WWI, it was a death sentence because your own frigging side would shoot you.

[–] KitsuneHaiku@ttrpg.network 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Human genetic modifications for improved physical/mental/emotional performance and aesthetics reasons. I'm sure furries will get what they want someday.

[–] Glimpythegoblin@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As long as it doesn't lead to the eugenics wars.

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[–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago

Access to abortions, I hope, sh!t is getting long.

[–] Danterious@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Voluntarily chopping off your arm. (To replace it with something else)

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh..."

Seriously though, even some pretty mundane stuff- knees and hips and such that won't crap out on my when I'm old, teeth that won't chip even if I do stupid shit like use them as a bottle opener, there's all kinds of bugs just waiting to be patched out of the human wetware.

And that without even considering the superhuman upgrades that could be considered.

[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Being overweight. It's a matter of years before a magic pill cures obesity.

Obesity will no longer be seen as a social taboo, but as a disease than can be cured.

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[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] waterbogan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I suspect that some degree of polyamory may be more socially acceptable in 100 years than it is now.

[–] platysalty@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

Don't worry too much, Kojima will make a game about it eventually.

[–] RichardBonham@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I am going to operate under the following assumptions:
-the current global trend towards authoritarian governments will continue and become more prevalent
-balkanization will be the new norm: an atlas will show more numerous and smaller countries
-climate change (extreme heat, extreme humidity and sea level rise) will make large regions functionally unfit for human habitation by reasons of lethal heat and/or humidity, loss of coastal access, lack of potable water and/or loss of sustainable agriculture.
-we'll be well into the technological curve for AI and robotics. We'll have gone past the early stage where people over-estimate technological capabilities and far into the later stages where people will under-estimate technological capabilities
-if cash is still legal, it will be useless for all legitimate transactions because no institution wants it. If it still exists, it will only be useful for peer-to-peer illegitimate transactions: crime, drugs and sex.
-whatever is bad now will be worse

So: social taboos that exist today that will not be taboo in 100 years?
-slavery: we already see slavery in all but name in the form of privatized prisons and wage-slavery (work a soul-killing minimum wage job, or die/be homeless). What if the cost of being able to emigrate from a country or region that is uninhabitable is slavery, whether real or de facto? It's the cheapest form of labor.
-murder: being deemed outlaw will make a comeback. An outlaw is outside the protection of the law, so killing an outlaw is not a crime.
-extortion: governments and government proxies (militias, death squads, religious sects) will exercise sanctioned extortion
-hoarding: if you are living in an unstable balkan state or are an unpopular minority in one, hoarding will not be pathologic
-civilian ownership of firearms
-racism and nationalism; best way to keep out undesirable climate refugees is to de-humanize them
-corporations being into every piece of the pie: a logical extension of the trend to privatization or "wanting government to be run like a business" is the replacement of nation-states by corporations or zaibatsu-like alliances of multiple corporations

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

No offense intended, but I sincerely hope you are wrong on all accounts. I doubt it, but one can hope...

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[–] Placid_Pupusa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

So…. what book were you reading?

[–] Fylkir@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd be surprised if in 100 years there's not at least one place in the world where wearing a pet collar is considered socially acceptable.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 24 points 1 year ago

It's already here, and has been for decades. Goth clubs, yo.

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