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[–] Dlg@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Y'all going to be real pissed off again.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm gonna be pissed off having to vote for Biden. I hate the two party system.

[–] cpo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Dutchie here. Not a fan of the multiparty system either. Anyone who hits the news (be it positive or negative) can start their own party if they get the number of party members required.

Result: we had to enlarge our voting billets.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an European can you explain what's so wrong about him? So many laws have been blocked by the opposition.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With Biden? He's a capitalist with the wrong priorities. He's approved more new oil drilling than anyone else in recent memory, for example. If you're European, you would probably consider him center-right, and I don't believe that's the right direction for America. We need stronger social safety nets, better education, and really need to invest in Americans again.

Don't get me wrong, he's done a lot of good. He really has. But if we had ranked choice voting in this country, he absolutely would not have won. He does not represent most of us. But he represents most of us better than the other guy.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Center-right is what's currently governing my country, so an absolutely no.

I should have probably specified better, don't know why I just said European. I am from Italy, we have "the protector of the traditional family values" in power and two days ago she slashed welfare.

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

It is a matter of perspective but center-right generally means some forms of welfare and capitalist regulations are still encouraged for very obvious cases, like anti-monopoly laws and basic healthcare.

What you're describing sounds more like plain right-wing. no welfare programs of any kind, invalidating progressive policies instead of maintaining status quo.

Biden made his whole career about cutting welfare programs and helping big corpos. He has shifted center in his former years, in part because the Democratic party now basically emcompass 75% of the political spectrum, since the GOP is now far-right, and everything left of that has to be absorbed by the democrats.

Biden is making decent compromise, thanks to his legacy with Obama and members of the party like Bernie and AOC, but he is way too moderate to enact the solutions that the country needs, imo.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's been a talking point since I was a fresh face high schooler over 30 years ago. It's been acted on only in very minor ways in that time. Nothing approaching what actually needed to be done.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why, you think he's going to win?

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It would be consistent with him getting away with all of the other obviously blatant shit he has done before.

[–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Mid term election should have been a right wing blow out and it wasn't, that's pretty foreboding for Trump

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's certainly a way to look at it. Not wrong either.

[–] Mookulator@wirebase.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty par for the economist. Not the same take as every other news outlet, not exactly the take I agree with on all points, but not totally wrong either.

[–] Lammy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We also get to see how badly he loses the popular vote.

[–] Lammy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Currently looks unlikely 😓

[–] elliothtz@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago
[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main problem with that analogy is that juries hear all the evidence before making their decision.

But MAGA voters will never hear the facts on these cases, because they live exclusively in a media bubble that feeds them lies and truly moronic conspiracy theories.

This country is not okay.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main problem with that analogy is that juries hear all the evidence before making their decision.

No. They are SUPPOSED to hear all the evidence. Reality and expectation are different things.

Voters are supposed to hear all of the facts. But reality and expectation are different things.

The analogy works great.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand how real juries work, then.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh ya? Tell that to Oj Simpson after getting away with murder.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They all heard the all the evidence.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
[–] kingthrillgore@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago
[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Article is paywalled after two paragraphs

[–] Llcooljessie@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

The Economist always has one eye on the bottom line.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Mookulator@wirebase.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Link is still dead or dead again homie.

[–] Mookulator@wirebase.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 year ago

(read to the tune of The Pink Panther)